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Have anyone tried Military Drysuits?

Discussion in 'Apparel' started by amtaher, Dec 5, 2019.

  1. amtaher

    amtaher Angel Fish

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    What about durabilty?
    And what is special in them then?
     
  2. Angelo Farina

    Angelo Farina Marine Scientist

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    I do not think that Seal operations are limited to such low range of depths... I have no insider info on US Seals, but I know for sure that Italian Seals (COMSUBIN) use a special Caimano-IV SC rebreather, which, albeit normally used in pure oxygen and CC, can also be operated with Nitrox SC rear-mounted cylinders, allowing them to operate down to 50m (depending on the O2 concentration and recycling rate):
    SIEL Advanced Sea System
    Regarding the dry suit (which Comsubin do not use often, they prefer more stretchy suits), here is what is manufactured here in Italy for Nato troops:
    http://www.divesystem.com/en/dry-suits/44-solo-shipboarding-nato-edition.html
    solo-shipboarding-nato-edition.jpg
     
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  3. BoundForElsewhere

    BoundForElsewhere Waiting for the zombies ScubaBoard Supporter

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    exactly what i was thinking
     
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  4. formernuke

    formernuke Regular of the Pub

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    You might or might not be able to get military or public service drysuits. One of my local shops can't get them unless they have paperwork from the agency requesting them to show the manufacturer.
     
  5. JackD342

    JackD342 Dive Shop

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    Anything that is "uniquely" military is probably going to have some differences in features/configurations, and/or some trade-off on the build. No one is just reserving a more durable material for military, if it would also be suitable for recreational. More durable may also mean heavier, less flexible/comfortable, more expensive, etc. They have different needs and different priorities.

    And sometimes, a military version may actually just be an older version that has been since improved, but never tested and approved for the new version, so the old one sticks around for that market. (For instance, the Mares Navy II that still uses the older 2nd stage seat, even though the newer version is more durable.)
     
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  6. abnfrog

    abnfrog Tech Instructor

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    most militaryy gear is built by the lowest bidder
     
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  7. michael-fisch

    michael-fisch ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Only on big purchases. The little stuff is still being bought with a purchase order, like needing a new bullet proof car for a new general officer slot in a US command in Germany they just go out and order a Mercedes S class Guardian sedan including run-flat-tires which will be delivered a few months later, often with enough legal German license plates that they can go a couple of weeks without using the same plates twice.
    No idea how good the armour really is, I know it'll defeat 7.62x51 Nato AP and won't defeat exSoviet RPG7 rounds but have no idea if it is good against 50cal AP and 13.2mm AP rounds, but trying to keep the car under a quarter million Euros you can't have everything.

    Michael
     
  8. VE7DAC

    VE7DAC Regular of the Pub

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    Canadian military salvage/clearance divers use Fusion suits, formerly made by White's, now Aqualung. The closest civilian model would be a Fusion Bullet.
     
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  9. JackD342

    JackD342 Dive Shop

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    If you don't mind the added weight and the excess drying time, there is also an Apeks branded Fusion with a Kevlar skin instead of the Bullet, Tech, or Sport.
     
  10. Scuba Cobra

    Scuba Cobra Barracuda

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    What a crock of S%$&
     

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