Don Burke
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A liftbag is considerably safer than a bungeed wing when it comes to carrying loads.
Halcyon DIR -VS- OMS? Help a new guy...
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A liftbag is considerably safer than a bungeed wing when it comes to carrying loads.
DeepTechScuba
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The only reason I could imagine to want a B/C with 100 lbs lift would be as a technical instructor, at the basic tech instruction level.
I know a tech instructor who has an OMS 100# lift B/C. I do not know of anyone else who uses a wing that big.
The only reason I can think of for having a wing bigger than 45 lbs would be in case of a drysuit flooding episode near the beginning of your tech dive, when all your tanks and bottles are neg buoyant with bottom gas and deco gas.
I have seen a tech diver flood his suit once, because he was not good about checking his wrist seals before the dive.
I know a tech instructor who has an OMS 100# lift B/C. I do not know of anyone else who uses a wing that big.
The only reason I can think of for having a wing bigger than 45 lbs would be in case of a drysuit flooding episode near the beginning of your tech dive, when all your tanks and bottles are neg buoyant with bottom gas and deco gas.
I have seen a tech diver flood his suit once, because he was not good about checking his wrist seals before the dive.
jplacson
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That's true... hehehe... just a thought... is there such a thing as a scuba toolbox? Something to place tools... wrenches, etc... and attach it to a liftbag? 
Don Burke
Contributor
jplacson once bubbled...
That's true... hehehe... just a thought... is there such a thing as a scuba toolbox? Something to place tools... wrenches, etc... and attach it to a liftbag?
I've used a canvas toolbag. I hook it to the anchor line. That won't work for live boat diving.
Hop Devil
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When buying gear for the first time don't make the mistake of purchasing the wrong thing twice. Determine a system you want and a budget you can live with. Shop for the best value you can afford in that budget and live to spend another day.
You have already made a great decision on a backplate and wing. The flexibiliy of this combination will allow you to add and modify your platform as your skills improve and your dives become more challenging.
Don't overpay where you can save money and obtain the same value. I find it incredulous that many divers grossly overpay for items like backplates that in effect are not life support equipment. My philosophy is buy a quality backplate, a quality
wing and spend the savings on the best regulator you can afford in your budget. Most of us on this board have purchased the wrong thing at least once and sometimes more. We all own lots of gear and half of the fun of diving is investigating, discussing, and researching your equipment purchases.
Good luck and have fun with your journey!
FYI
My Gear: Dive Rite Wing (favorite)
Halcyon Pioneer
S&W Metal Products Backplate Stainless
S&W Metal Products Backplate Alum
Apeks Regs
DUI TLS 350 Drysuit
You have already made a great decision on a backplate and wing. The flexibiliy of this combination will allow you to add and modify your platform as your skills improve and your dives become more challenging.
Don't overpay where you can save money and obtain the same value. I find it incredulous that many divers grossly overpay for items like backplates that in effect are not life support equipment. My philosophy is buy a quality backplate, a quality
wing and spend the savings on the best regulator you can afford in your budget. Most of us on this board have purchased the wrong thing at least once and sometimes more. We all own lots of gear and half of the fun of diving is investigating, discussing, and researching your equipment purchases.
Good luck and have fun with your journey!
FYI
My Gear: Dive Rite Wing (favorite)
Halcyon Pioneer
S&W Metal Products Backplate Stainless
S&W Metal Products Backplate Alum
Apeks Regs
DUI TLS 350 Drysuit
jplacson
Guest
Grrrr... I just saw the new Eclipse wing from Halcyon!!!! :upset: right after I just bought my new Pioneer 27s
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Oh well... other than the outershell protection... are there any advantages to a double bag? Are there any disadvantages? I'm curious how you'd remove the inner bladder from the outershell if the wing is circular and not the "U" shape.
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Oh well... other than the outershell protection... are there any advantages to a double bag? Are there any disadvantages? I'm curious how you'd remove the inner bladder from the outershell if the wing is circular and not the "U" shape.
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ClassAction
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Just wanted to thank everyone for the advice!
Straggler Dave
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It'd probably be a bit bulkier....
That's what I was thinking... I think I'll stick with my Pioneer.
Don Burke
Contributor
I'm looking forward to someone doing a side-by-side on these wings.
I just finished doing the same research and went with an Oxycheq 30# wing, Koplin SS backplate and his Lightweight STA.
You will definatley need one wing for singles and one for doubles. I used the Koplin LW STA, because I wanted the secure fit of an STA without a hugh amount of weight.
You will definatley need one wing for singles and one for doubles. I used the Koplin LW STA, because I wanted the secure fit of an STA without a hugh amount of weight.
