Ground-up DIR divers and preparation for the real world

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kanonfodr, the degree of diligence and detail in plans and checks varies in the DIR world, just as it does in the rest of the diving world.

If I'm diving with buddies I know, I don't go through "The rock bottom for this 30 foot dive is 500 psi, so I have 1900 usable and turn is 1400," simply because we all know it. It's a halves dive with a 500 psi rock bottom, and we all know how that goes.

If I'm diving with someone who isn't familiar with gas planning, I'll do the 60 second gas planning explanation, and find out what size tank they are diving, figure their rock bottom for them and tell them what their turn pressure is. (In general, this is diving with new divers, so they generally haven't been exposed to those sorts of concepts at all.)

All in all, I think people with DIR training TEND to be (but are not universally, as nothing holds universally for ANY kind of diver) more diligent about having some kind of dive plan in place, and doing equipment and bubble checks. When diving with people with different training, this may seem a bit strange, but if folks are affable, it generally gets sorted out. There ARE a few things about equipment that a new diver with no experience other than DIR might forget to go over, simply because they aren't issues with our gear (for example, releases). All of these things are easily manageable, and the non-DIR diver should be able to remind the DIR guy to check those things which he might forget.

In my experience, and not to intend any offense, the biggest shocker might be the casual attitude toward keeping a team together, and the difficulty in communication with someone who doesn't use lights and hasn't been taught a rotating scan of their environment.
 
...the difficulty in communication with someone who [-]doesn't [/-]uses [-]the [/-]dangly lights [-]and hasn't been taught[/-] to do a [-]rotating[/-] disco scan of their environment.

fixed for ya
 
Oh, yes, the UK Light Cannon hanging from a lanyard phenomenon -- drives me NUTS!
 
I've tried to figure out a polite way of asking people on the surface why they were signalling for help constantly throughout the dive.

When you dive with enough people you will learn that one person's emergency signal is the same as another person's "Hey look ... it's a crab" signal ... :shocked2:

Of course, sometimes after the dive they will ask me why I was constantly offering them my regulator ... :D

Humans are contextual ... by nature as well as by training ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
If I'm diving with someone who isn't familiar with gas planning, I'll do the 60 second gas planning explanation, and find out what size tank they are diving, figure their rock bottom for them and tell them what their turn pressure is. (In general, this is diving with new divers, so they generally haven't been exposed to those sorts of concepts at all.)

Could you share that with me!? 60 seconds? I was trying to catch on to rock bottom by reading something I found and... well in 60 seconds I had just gotten into some equations and... perhaps what you could share might get me started. I normally dive a steel 80.
 
When you dive with enough people you will learn that one person's emergency signal is the same as another person's "Hey look ... it's a crab" signal ... :shocked2:

Of course, sometimes after the dive they will ask me why I was constantly offering them my regulator ... :D

Humans are contextual ... by nature as well as by training ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

I knew that one from long ago, it's only the dangly lights that stress me out. I politely ask them to hold their lights if we're doing another dive, because it looks like to me they're signalling for an emergency.
 
I knew that one from long ago, it's only the dangly lights that stress me out. I politely ask them to hold their lights if we're doing another dive, because it looks like to me they're signalling for an emergency.

... or a modification to make it point down when they let go of it ... a bit of duct tape and cave line will do the trick ... :D

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
Could you share that with me!? 60 seconds? I was trying to catch on to rock bottom by reading something I found and... well in 60 seconds I had just gotten into some equations and... perhaps what you could share might get me started. I normally dive a steel 80.

Try tables from this article Rock Bottom and Gas Management for Recreational Divers
 
http://cavediveflorida.com/Rum_House.htm

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