Grendel, thoughts and copyright

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sillygrendel

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Considering I'm insanely bored tonight and actually posting on scubaboard...

Before knowing I would actually ever post here I choose sillygrendel as my name... (Grendel was taken) Too late to change identity now! (laugh)

I've been thinking of a custom avatar and I know what I'd like... I don't know if anyone here has read John Gardners Grendel .

I'd like one of the line drawings from the book... I don't suppose I could use it without permission of the author??
 
...with a hot topic post such as the DIR 3, Strokes 0, this post just got overlooked. Cheer up. You could always use the copyright symbol and the owner's name next to your avatar...that should keep you out of legal trouble since you aren't profiting from the use of the character.
 
But you're probably better off trying to contact the legal owner. I ran in to this issue on some websites I've done.

You probably don't have much to worry about. Unless you have mega bucks I don't see anyone pushing a copyright suit. Plus, you aren't really profiting from it.

However....on the note of the useless post....it's time to go troll the DIR thread that Rush mentioned.

Wish me luck :bonk:
 
find a picture on the net. Once it's on the net, you didn't copy it, you found it on your computer after it was downloaded by your browser. By them putting the picture on the internet and forcing it to be stored on your hard drive, they better think about dropping the frivolous copyright infringement lawsuit and start paying you for the disk space they took up.

[hmm... just wait 'til the patent lawyers get a look at this post! :)]
 
You probably don't have much to worry about. Unless you have mega bucks I don't see anyone pushing a copyright suit. Plus, you aren't really profiting from it.

Hee... The only thing they could possibly take from me now would be my diving gear, climbing gear, and maybe some lint from my pocket!

I've actually looked all over the net for it without any luck.

DAMN THEM!
 
you can try to find a picture of Beowolf's Grendel, that story is so old nobody knows who wrote it so forget about copyrights
 
...but beware...if you use baby Grendel's image, Momma Grendel might come after you !
 
In the United States and it territories, 17 U.S.C. §106 provides a copyright owner with, inter alia, the exclusive right to (1) reproduce the copyrighted work; (2) prepare derivative works of the copyrighted work; (3) distribute copies of the copyrighted work; and (4) display the copyrighted work. 17 U.S.C. §501, which provides for a copyright infringement action, does not contain a "scienter" requirement, i.e. the statute does not say that the infringer must take the action knowingly, negligently or recklessly. In other words, if you do the deed, you suffer the penalty, regardless of whether you knew you did something wrong.

Federal copyright protection attaches the moment a person reduces an expression to a form (e.g. a drawing). However, under 17 U.S.C. §412, an owner cannot sue an infringer for money damages or attorney's fees unless the copyrighted work is registered and deposited with the Patent and Trademark Office within three months after the work's creation. When an owner does not register the copyrighted work and deposit a copy at the USPTO, the owner is generally limited to injunctive relief, i.e. a court order that says the infringer cannot infringe anymore.

Sections 107 through 120 provide some exemptions from liability, including "fair use" in scholastic work, research and teaching. In effect, if you reproduce a copyrighted work for criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship or research, such a use is not a violation of copyright.

However, there is no "I found it on the Internet" exemption. The authoritative statements that "I found it on the Internet, so it's O.K. to use" I have seen on countless boards have no basis in law. It is an Internet myth perpetuated by the legally naive.

Now, if the owner has intentionally abandoned the copyright and has knowingly placed the formerly copyrighted work into the public domain, then it's fair game. I have seen several articles on the Internet where the author has explicitly stated that he or she is placing the article into the public domain.

There is a concept called "innocent infringement" which reduces statutory damages in cases where the infringer was not aware and had no reason to believe that his or her acts constituted an infringement of copyright. It does not absolve a person of liability. In most cases, though, this doctrine has been applied to newspaper publishers, broadcasters, librarians, teachers and non-profit organizations who have infringed a copyright in an occasional or isolated use of a copyrighted work.

So the brief answer to your question is yes, you would be infringing the copyright by using an image you know to be copyrighted. Are you likely to get sued? Probably not. The owner has to catch you, and then the owner has to be concerned enough about your use to do something about it.

Unfortunately, the Internet has presented a substantial challenge to policing intellectual property rights (trademark, copyright and patent). After all, a copyright owner would have to peruse countless pages to ensure that his or her work does not appear thereupon. The law is still evolving to catch up with technology, although there has been substantial legislative action to try to keep pace.

Regards,
 
I couldnt have said it better myself...! Now where is that Law degree book gone !! :D
 
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