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[Mr.X]

I'm reading this AP article: Crews dive deep for NYC water tunnel job | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

We all know the press gets it wrong when it comes to diving. I'm just having a hard time separating what's what. Is it 700 feet, or 600? Is it dry, or wet? If it's wet, why wetsuits in what is arguably a very cold water environment? Tethered, or untethered? Unscramblers, or recorders? Lungs which cannot pressure either! If they're wearing tanks...bailout, or breathers? Come on' AP reporter - fact-check & edit! You can always swoon later at those muscular lads wearing hard hats and locking collars.

x

ps: My take is that this project is multi-faceted. It's probably lots of cold, hard fun.

 

[Gary D.]

The media can’t get a simple swimming pool training dive right. How can anyone expect them to get anything right in a commercial HEO2 Total Saturation Dive inside a pipe.

Up here we get a lot of problems with Deer’s, Elk’s, Moose’s, Sheep’s, Goose’s and not long ago they reported something on milking Bulls. Leave it to the media.

Gary D.

 

[don Francisco]

Gary-
I don't see your problem. Consider that the article was written for the general public, not for divers in particular. I'd expect more specific details if this appeared in a dive magazine, but consider the Houston Chronicle's readership. The vast bulk have no idea what saturation diving is, and many might assume it means the divers are thouroughly soaked. If they got overly caught up in technical details the paper would lose their audience. As it is they did a fairly good job of telling an interesting story about a job that's outside the normal realm. Possibly they piqued interest in diving among a few of their more intellectually curious readers. All in all, it's probably a positive thing for diving in general.
Compared to the shark & drowning scare news folks usually get about diving, this is great.
francis

 

[h90]

I'm reading this AP article: Crews dive deep for NYC water tunnel job | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

We all know the press gets it wrong when it comes to diving. I'm just having a hard time separating what's what. Is it 700 feet, or 600? Is it dry, or wet? If it's wet - why are they wearing wetsuits in what would arguably be a very cold water environment? Tethered, or untethered? Unscramblers, or recorders? Lungs cannot pressure either! If they're wearing tanks are they wearing bailout, or breathers? Come on' AP reporter - fact-check & edit first! You can always swoon later at those muscular lads wearing hard hats and locking collars.

x

ps: My take is that this project is multi-faceted. It's also probably a lot of cold, hard fun.

thats normal...consider that, if you read something about food, genetic, nuclear or whatever you don't know in detail.....All these articles are in the same quality.

 

[Mr.X]

Gary-
I don't see your problem. Consider that the article was written for the general public, not for divers in particular. I'd expect more specific details if this appeared in a dive magazine, but consider the Houston Chronicle's readership. The vast bulk have no idea what saturation diving is, and many might assume it means the divers are thouroughly soaked. If they got overly caught up in technical details the paper would lose their audience. As it is they did a fairly good job of telling an interesting story about a job that's outside the normal realm. Possibly they piqued interest in diving among a few of their more intellectually curious readers. All in all, it's probably a positive thing for diving in general.
Compared to the shark & drowning scare news folks usually get about diving, this is great.
francis

Copied directly from AP's own site:

AP's mission is to be the essential global news network, providing distinctive news services of the highest quality, reliability and objectivity with reports that are accurate, balanced and informed.

X

If I want entertainment I go to the NY Post! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/NYPost.jpg

 

[ItMustBeJames]

This would make great reading if it were a more in-depth article!

 

[Gary D.]

Gary-
I don't see your problem. Consider that the article was written for the general public, not for divers in particular. I'd expect more specific details if this appeared in a dive magazine, but consider the Houston Chronicle's readership. The vast bulk have no idea what saturation diving is, and many might assume it means the divers are thouroughly soaked. If they got overly caught up in technical details the paper would lose their audience. As it is they did a fairly good job of telling an interesting story about a job that's outside the normal realm. Possibly they piqued interest in diving among a few of their more intellectually curious readers. All in all, it's probably a positive thing for diving in general.
Compared to the shark & drowning scare news folks usually get about diving, this is great.
francis

I don’t have a problem with the article at all. It’s just a summery of what is going on and I rarely expect any news coverage to be totally accurate. This one seems to be a bit more accurate than most the way it reads. The longer one deals with the media the less information you want to give them because the fewer words they have the fewer mistakes they might make, or at least you’d hope so.

My wife used to think most of what she saw on the news or read in the paper was very accurate. After going on a few operations with me she just shakes her head at the media reports. On one of the first operations she went on with me she had a ring side seat right alongside a reporter. When the article came out the first words out of her mouth were “That isn’t what happened at all”. She was right but that’s the media.

They have a fixed space or time frame to get the information out. So in the process they cut here and cut there and change this a bit and that a bit. Before you know it the accurate information is no longer quite as accurate.

But some accuracy needs to implemented no matter where the article comes out at. Like my second part reads: “Up here we get a lot of problems with Deer’s, Elk’s, Moose’s, Sheep’s, Goose’s and not long ago they reported something on milking Bulls”. I’m not sure what grade you learn that part of English in but for college grad reporters making simple mistakes like that is just unacceptable. Even the public talking about it is referring to Deer’s, Elk’s, Moose’s, Sheep’s, Goose’s and milking Bulls after hearing them. It's Deer, Elk, Moose and Sheep no matter how many there are. More than one Goose is Geese and I want to watch a dairy milk a Bull so I know where not to get my dairy products. What kind of message is this sending to the younger generation?

These have actually been on the news and in the paper along with dozens of others. It isn’t only messed up by the reporter so what was the editor doing?

Gary D.

 

[Mr.X]

On one of the first operations she went on with me she had a ring side seat right alongside a reporter. When the article came out the first words out of her mouth were “That isn’t what happened at all”. She was right but that’s the media.

They have a fixed space or time frame to get the information out. So in the process they cut here and cut there and change this a bit and that a bit. Before you know it the accurate information is no longer quite as accurate.

... I’m not sure what grade you learn that part of English in but for college grad reporters making simple mistakes like that is just unacceptable. Even the public talking about it is referring to Deer’s, Elk’s, Moose’s, Sheep’s, Goose’s and milking Bulls after hearing them. It's Deer, Elk, Moose and Sheep no matter how many there are. More than one Goose is Geese and I want to watch a dairy milk a Bull so I know where not to get my dairy products. What kind of message is this sending to the younger generation?

These have actually been on the news and in the paper along with dozens of others. It isn’t only messed up by the reporter so what was the editor doing?

Gary D.

Quite true and funny! Mechanical errors in writing shouldn't be present at the graduate (college) level. However, the editors in charge are obviously not looking at copy, nor do they deem accuracy a priority.

Also, your last statement is sadly being realized in many, many generations of kids. I am not looking forward to copy which is typed and pasted in text-message lingo and abbreviations.

X

 

[mikerault]

I love the part about nitrogen being to heavy at that depth and the lungs couldn't take the pressure...and the expensive helium....