I have to wonder if these thoughful comments reflect the kind of 'adult' discussion that Halemano was trying to stimulate in another thread that was quickly closed (' there is no such way to make this diving safe, and no more point in discussing unsafe practices '). Maybe not, maybe there was some agenda in his OP that I didn't see, etc. But, I have been disappointed in several recent threads where a question about deep, deep / air, or deep / air / 'bounce' diving has generated an immediate, emotional / visceral reaction somewhat akin to 'The question is stupid, and you must be stupid for even asking it.' I appreciate Andy and Bob taking a somewhat different apprao0ch and basically saying, 'For any dive, good decision-making is critical, and here are some of the questions / issues that should be addresed as part of good decision making'. My experience with four children (the youngest of which nominally concluded her 'teenage' years with a birthday two weeks ago) is that the surest way to get a teenager to do something that you don't think they should do is to tell them, 'That is stupid.' or 'You would be stupid to do that'. And, I made that mistake more than a few times. What worked better was to take the approach, 'Interesting question. If I was thinking about doing that, here are the questions I would ask and answer first first', or something to that effect - not foolproof, but a better way to get them to ask more questions (before heading off to do something I considered to be really stupid.

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