Global warming

[H2Andy]

Andy, ALL the antarctic ice lost so far is floating glacial ice. Floatng ice loss is not a critical problem and causes NO sea level rise.

i wasn't talking about rise in ocean levels. i was talking about global warming,
which the melting ice caps are evidence of.

(i do see your point, that the icebergs were already "submerged" to begin with, so they
don't add any net gain to the ocean once they melt... i'm not sure if this is right
or not, but that wasn't my point)

 

[FredT]

Andy, the point was that the ice melting off was from the LAST GG event. Granted the event may have been several hundreds to thousands of years ago as ocean levels seem to have temporarily stabilized, but that simply brings the next event closer.

The other thing you may want to look at is the fact that by changing solar reflectance and re-readiation the melting caps may be the cause of significant portions of the warming, not simply a symptom.

FT

 

[dlndavid]

Looks like Blair has put the coop de gras on kyoto.
http://www.techcentralstation.com/091505JP.html
But hardly even a blip on the radar screen of th MSM.