Gilboa Deep Side

[yknot]

I've heard that due to some of the accidents at Gilboa, a new requirement for diving the deep side is either twins, pony (twins of a sort) or second stage shut down valves such as the ones that Apeks and Zeagle sell (mount inline between end of l.p. hose and second stage) along with previous suggestions to buddy dive, etc. Has anyone been thru this recently? What are current requirements, as of this summer, for the deep side? I'm not going to pony up and don't really like the inline shutoffs but will go that route if nec.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

I've heard that due to some of the accidents at Gilboa, a new requirement for diving the deep side is either twins, pony (twins of a sort) or second stage shut down valves such as the ones that Apeks and Zeagle sell (mount inline between end of l.p. hose and second stage) along with previous suggestions to buddy dive, etc. Has anyone been thru this recently? What are current requirements, as of this summer, for the deep side? I'm not going to pony up and don't really like the inline shutoffs but will go that route if nec.

I was there Sunday and saw a bunch of single tanks in the deep end without pony's and without shut off valves. Didn't see anything posted about it and Mike didn't say anything.

 

[diver_paula]

hmmm.... I could have sworn the rules were changed a few years back to requiring a redundant air supply. (i.e. doubles, pony, etc.) Not a new rule to my knowledge. Although I haven't been on the deep side in a couple years - perhaps it was recinded and then brought back.

If you are really curious I'd check out the Gilboa website &/or call down to the quarry.

Paula

 

[rab]

When I was there on 6/19/04, I looked over the Dive Plan and extra waiver for diving on the deep side. If you didn't plan to dive below 80ft, then you needed no special equipment. (And the right to inspect dive computer logs was reserved.)

IF you wanted to dive below 80ft, then some form of redundant air source was required. Doubles, Twins, H-Valve, Pony, etc. were all listed as acceptable ways of satisfying the requirement. I did look on the web to see if Mike had a copy (PDF?) of the deep dive plan form available, but didn't see one (but the normal waiver isn't posted either).

-Rob

 

[diver_paula]

When I was there on 6/19/04, I looked over the Dive Plan and extra waiver for diving on the deep side. If you didn't plan to dive below 80ft, then you needed no special equipment. (And the right to inspect dive computer logs was reserved.)

IF you wanted to dive below 80ft, then some form of redundant air source was required. Doubles, Twins, H-Valve, Pony, etc. were all listed as acceptable ways of satisfying the requirement. I did look on the web to see if Mike had a copy (PDF?) of the deep dive plan form available, but didn't see one (but the normal waiver isn't posted either).

-Rob

Thanks Rob. I knew I had to use a redundant air source in the past. Just forgot about going below 80' being the reason for it.

 

[diverbrian]

It's been that way since at least last year when I started diving the deep side.

I've only been over there a couple of times this year, but I wouldn't do any kind of deep, coldwater diving without the redundancy of either my 120's (H-Valves) or my Doubles.

 

[DiveTyme]

I believe if you are an insured instructor you do not need reduntant air. That is maybe who you saw.
Tim

 

[MikeFerrara]

Last time I saw the form it had a list of things for you to check off if you had them including O2, environmental sealed reg, O2, with an instructor...ect.

That's not a complete list but it's always read as if to say that if you were with an instructor you didn't need anything else.

I know that's the case because we've always joked about the idea that being an instructor must somehow do as well as having all the other stuff. LOL

 

[DaveP]

So I've never been on the deep side at Gilboa - is it worth the hassle and the cold? What's to see down there? The Gilboa map doesn't picture anything except the trailer and some platforms...

 

[divemastertim]

So I've never been on the deep side at Gilboa - is it worth the hassle and the cold? What's to see down there? The Gilboa map doesn't picture anything except the trailer and some platforms...

There is not much on the deep side.
Yes it is worth go on the deep side if you want to do some pratice for deep diving.