Getting the hang of accending properly

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Pretty new to diving, I have 5 dives other than my OW dives that I did for my certification classes. On those dives we went down to a depth of around 40 ft and accending wasn't a problem cause we always had our instructor there to monitor our accent rate. Now that I'm diving on my own I feel weird accending I was taught rule of thumb was you were good as long as your not accending faster than your bubbles, but today when I was on my way up from right around 30 ft I feel like I went up a little faster than I should, even though I'm no where near close to accending faster than my bubbles. Is this just a practice makes perfect deal? I was going straight up, does it help to accending on an angle to better control it? Just looking for some tips on ways to get the hang of it safely.


-Seth
 
It does take some practice & if you can, use an ascent/ anchor line, or some sort of reference, it may help you. Not sure if you have a computer or not. If so, you should be using that, or your depth gauge & a timing device to track your ascent.
 
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I have a scuba resource that I'm using and it does have the accent meter that I try to follow. I know in class I was taught 30 ft per minute safe accent rate, I was at around 25 ft today and even though I felt like I was crawling up, there was no way I made it to the surface in 50 seconds..more like 30..and when you accent do you dump all the air in your BC or just a little as you rise up? I was thinking today and couldn't be positive on which one it was..I mean I'm 6ft tall so when I stand up at 25 ft I'm only 19 ft down meaning I need like 38 seconds but still no way it was that long
 
When you start your ascent, you should be neutrally buoyant. As soon as you start to ascend, the air in your BCD will start to expand, as will the bubbles in a wet suit if you are wearing one. They will want to send you to the surface. As you feel that happening, vent some air from your BCD so that you--not your BCD or wet suit--control the speed of your ascent. You will probably need to give a series of little puffs as you ascend. Always have the feeling that very light kicking--not your BCD--is bringing you to the surface.

Once you are a more experienced diver,, you can learn more sophisticated ways to make a controlled ascent.

Some people do say that you should dump all the air from your BCD before you ascend, but that is not a good idea. It actually does work OK if you are properly weighted in a thin (3mm) wet suit, but if you are in a heavy wet suit (7 mm) or very much overweighted, you may find yourself fighting to bring up all that extra weight.
 
One caution about the rule of thumb about not ascending faster than your bubbles: Larger bubbles rise faster. The rule of thumb only applies to the smallest bubbles, no larger than a couple of mm in diameter (slightly smaller than a pencil eraser head). You may have to wave your hand through the bubbles every few feet to break them up, especially closer to the surface where they grow in size faster.
 
I have rather sensitive ears, when it comes to pressure changes. Once I feel the pressure relieve off my ears a bit & start to feel the slightest positively buoyant (while also monitoring my computer), I release some air from my BC or wing,... just a little though, until my ascent slows. I then get my ascent going again just by inhaling & start the cycle over again. It took me probably 3- 4 yrs to get the hang of it & I will be quick to say, it isn't perfect, but works a majority of the time. I wouldn't really recommend the method I use,... it is just what works for me. An ascent line, if available, may be you best bet for right now until you can control your BC 100%, as it will give you something to arrest your ascent, if things start going too fast.
 
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As mentioned, it's easier with a reference like an anchor line. Following the PADI 60' per minute, I find it easy to gage 10' per 10 seconds with my analog depth gauge. Usually I wind up going considerably slower. Some times I'm right on a sandy bottom looking for shells with an almost empty BC. Actually have to add a bit of air to get neutrally buoyant before starting the ascent, or I'll be kicking like mad to raise all that weight.
 
Try ascending from 40 ft. to 30 ft. and hold that depth for a minute. Just watch your depth and time for that minute, then ascend to 20 ft. and repeat that one minute. Then ascend to 10 ft. for another minute.
After that one minute at 10 ft., slowly ascend to the surface.

Slow deliberate practice is helpful. Start out with some sort of visual reference along with watching your depth and time.
You get to practice it every dive, you'll get better at it soon enough.

As you get better at it progress to doing it with no visual reference.

Ascending with no visual reference is very tricky at first.

-Mitch
 
Without a dive computer (all have ascent rate monitors/displays), it can be more tricky to monitor the speed of your ascent. Your instructor will have shown you an appropriate rate, but I do understand that it can be hard to replicate this initially. It will become an instinctive/unconscious skill as you practice it more and more.

You should always bear in mind that the recommended ascent rate is the maximum speed. Ascending at a rate below this can be viewed as a prudent and conservative diving practice. PADI recommend 18m/60ft per minute. Other training agencies recommend a much slower rate.

The techniques taught to you on your Open Water course should go a long way towards ensuring that you can ascend safely - and also enable you to track and assess your ascents.

You should have a depth gauge and timing device for your dives. When you decide to end your dive and make a direct ascent to the surface, it is helpful if you check the time and depth. This insures that you know your dive's bottom time (for dive logging and repetitive dive calculation) and also allows you to gauge your ascent through a simple speed-distance-time calculation. Simply divide the depth by the time (i.e. 40ft divided by 40 seconds = 1ft per second = 60ft per minute)

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As you ascend from a dive, you can monitor your depth and time to ensure that your ascent speed is not excessive. To ensure a uniform and constant rate, break the ascent into smaller 'levels' and apply the speed-distance-time calculation to that. The time taken to ascent each level allows you to determine your rate as you go. A 30ft per minute rate is ideal (half of the maximum speed recommended by PADI). For ease of monitoring, this means you are ascending 1ft every 2 seconds / 10ft every 20 seconds.

For instance, for a 60ft/18m ascent, you can sub-divide the ascent into six 10ft levels, each of which should take you 20 seconds. Your entire ascent to the surface would take 2 minutes. To add a safety stop, simply pause at 20ft depth and hover for 3 minutes - meaning your total ascent time is 5 minutes. After the stop, recommence your ascent - allowing 40 seconds for the final two 10ft levels.

If you know how long your ascent should take, even a casual glance at your dive watch will inform you of whether you are on track or not.

Direct ascents to the surface, especially without a visual/tactile reference (shot line/reef wall/slope) can be very taxing for novice divers. Buoyancy control is essential to maintain a slow ascent speed - which, of course, is reliant upon proper weighting. If over-weighted, the diver will suffer excessive and regular positive buoyancy from the expansion of a greater volume of air in their BCD. Proper weighting ensures that a minimal amount air is needed in the BCD. The smaller the amount of air, the smaller the proportional expansion of air...and the less likely you are to lose control.

For more details about how buoyancy and weighting impact on ascents, have a look at my article;
Scuba Buoyancy Masterclass 7of9 - Ascent, Descent and at the Bottom - Scuba Tech Philippines

Where possible, utilise a line for ascents. When boat diving, a shot (buoyed) or anchor line is often present. Ascend on a line hand-over-hand - that will give you a slow, regular ascent rate. If that isn't available, then you could consider getting a Delayed Surface Marker Buoy (DSMB) and a spool. Whilst this takes some practice to deploy safely, it is invaluable in providing a ready reference from which to gauge an ascent. If you are winding in a reel/spool, it is hard to ascend too quickly (I've found that winding in a finger spool tends to keep my ascent rate well below 12ft per minute).

Hope that helps!
 
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I like ascending(and descending) flat in the water, or even a little head down. It provides more surface area to slow things down, and if you start going too fast, or your buddy in front of you needs help, a couple of kicks can start you back down, or get you over to her. It also puts the air in my wing right under the rear dump valve. If you're upright, your fins are useless for moving in any direction except up. I can feel the pressure changes in my ears too.
 

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