Garuda vs Lion Air

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Does anyone have experience with Garuda & Lion Air? I've flown Garuda before & had no problems, but I've also had to wait several days to get on a plane in backwater towns in Indonesia. We'll be flying from Denpasar to Manado & my understanding is that Garuda and Lion Air are the two possibilities.

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I have used both and not encountered any problems expect when using Lion and Pelita to get to the end of the world locations like Sorong. In the case of the latter I have encountered last minute flight cancellations that are really a pain.
 
I flew DPS-Manado on Lion in June of last year. It was much cheaper than Garuda, about $100 USD RT, with one layover in Makassar/Ujung Padang, the Southern Sulawesi city with two names. Our particular flight had us arriving in Manado at 11 PM, but no problem, the funny little hotel we stayed at by the airport had someone pick us up. Seems like most Manadoids are quite careful about driving at night because it is rumored that too many drunks are out.

As far as the Lion airplanes themselves, they seemed completely sound and only a little bit funky cleanliness wise. On the DPS Makassar flight, we discovered someone had thrown up a bit in the magazine compartment. When we took our seats we had wondered what that faint sickly odor was, and discovered the source when we stuck our mags in the compartment for take-off and took them out again. But that was the only major sanitation issue we encountered. If I recall properly, we weren't actually assigned seats, but just took whatever was available when boarding. Of course the Indonesians are very quick and nimble to quey up when the flight is announced (by someone hollering), leaving us slightly dazed Americans behind.

I had a great time on Lion because it got me a lot closer to non-tourism-industry Indonesians, especially Moslems, than I usually get. I surprised myself because I realised I was a little afraid of the Moslems, because as an American I guess I thought they probably hated me on sight. But it was fun to exchange shy smiles with women in veils, and to check out the modern contemporary look in Moslem women's fashion. Then, on the return trip I sat next to a Moslem man in sunglasses who gently lectured me on westerner's lack of spiritual and family values. Seems he had travelled extensively in the US in the 80s, and when we beboarded the plane (directly onto the tarmac of course, a black car drove right up next to the plane to pick this guy up! Hmmmm......
 
I've flown both airlines and had no problems. Have flown Lion from Singapore to Sumatra and onto Makassar, Sulawasi; from Sulawesi to Balikpapan, Kalimantan; from Lombok to Surabaya and then to Singapore; and for getting back and forth between Lombok and Bali numerous times. I've also used Garuda internationally (from California to Jakarta) as well as for domestic routes. Just bring your own snacks. (The food leaves something to be desired, and I have an adventurous palate with a penchant for street vendors.)

Both airlines were certainly more reliable than Merpati, which I've also flown a ton out of lack of a better option in the "backwaters."

Here are two Merpati tales, should you have time:

1. Once in Flores, Merpati shut down all flights out of Maumere (in the northeastern part of the island) due to an active volcano that was belching up ash all over the town. Fair enough. That's dangerous. I'd seen the sucker shooting up a white column while going down for a dive. But we had called the Merpati office the day after the ash starting coming out to confirm our tickets, as instructed, and Merpati confirmed our reservation without a problem. I know there was no language barrier because the owner of our guesthouse got on the phone to make sure.

Now, in Flores, though not everywhere, Merpati agents work as a sort of franchise, so you have to book and pay for the ticket in the town that you are flying from. (A Merpati agent won't even call all another Merpati agent in a different city. You make and pay for the call yourself.)

So two days after the volcano incident and the day before our flight we went into town to pay for the ticket. It was then that the Merpati agent informed us that they had cancelled all flights starting from the day the volcano started coughing through the coming week.

We ended up hiring a car and driver to take us to Ende in the middle of the night. Got up at the crack of dawn and lurked at the airline office until someone showed up to work and got two of the last tickets, as everyone else in the area had been rerouted by the volcano too. In the end, we could only get to Bali via Sumbawa. This meant we had to buy another ticket to fly to Mataram, Lombok so that we could catch our flight to Singapore, in order to catch our flight back to NYC.

2. On another occasion, I took Merpati from Manado to Gorontalo in order to catch the overnight ferry to the Togeans. We got on the plane, which had foldable school-bus style seats, and suddenly felt a poke from below. Turns out we were sitting on a Leatherman. Who knows if it belonged to the last passenger (how did that get past security?) or whether it was being used to fix the plane.

The plane took off, but the cockpit door was never closed, so I was able to witness the pilot's activiites. About 20 minutes into our flight the captain spread the comic strip section of a newspaper over the entire window of the cockpit, carefully tucking in the corners to make the paper stay. This blocked the sun's glare. However, it also meant the pilot couldn't see. Now, I promise you there was no radar on that plane, and the newspaper stayed up until the last 10 minutes of the flight when we were preparing to land! No joke.
 
Garuda is more expensive than Lion Air, but it is said to be more reliable.
Lion Air is cheaper.
A third way (I have not checked between Bali and Manado) is the Citilink. It is the same system as a bus, but it's a plane.Very cheap. It is operated by Garuda as well. So quite reliable.

But keep in mind: you will be flying in Indonesia. So, before you have taken off, you will never be sure that you will leave.
Overbooking, last minute cancellation of the flight, change of the plane (for smaller, hence overbooking), or even no understandable reason at all, there are many opportunities to test your self control. And there are such stories with all the companies operating within Indonesia.

One tip: always have your flight re-confirmed several days in advance by the hotel in which you stay, and be at the airport well in advance.
And have a good book and a bottle of water.

Cheerseyebrow
 
Thanks for all the insight---I will let y'all know how it goes when we get back (mid-May). We leave in April & will be headed to Bali & then to Manado (Bunaken).

Cheers,

BF
 

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