Forced descent in Blue Hole

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Web Monkey:
If it's not attached to you, you can't count on it. What happens if you get swept away by unexpected current, or just get lost?

Terry

I think that some are missing the context in which this discussion is taking place. We are talking (or were talking) about "Blue Hole, Belize, CA" specific conditions. There is no current, great visibility is the norm, and you are pretty much confined by the reef.

I agree that 99% of the deep dives out there probably warrant a pony bottle...The Blue Hole just doesn't seem like one of them IMO. It is a very easy dive.
 
1RUSTYRIG:
I think that some are missing the context in which this discussion is taking place. We are talking (or were talking) about "Blue Hole, Belize, CA" specific conditions. There is no current, great visibility is the norm, and you are pretty much confined by the reef.

I agree that 99% of the deep dives out there probably warrant a pony bottle...The Blue Hole just doesn't seem like one of them IMO. It is a very easy dive.

True that Blue Hole is not a physically strenuous dive (not including the 21/2 hour, rough boat ride to get there), and true, there is no current, but I can not think of a more appropriate use for a pony bottle. This dive is nearly 140' to swim through the cavern and the pony is the perfect back-up for equipment failure. Many of the divers at the Blue Hole are new divers and should not be there and, for me, it's nice to have the comfort of the pony in case the buddy system doesn't work out as designed.
 
It seems to me an awfully short BT.
 
TheRedHead:
It seems to me an awfully short BT.

It's worth suffering the boat ride once to do this dive. The cavern was above sea level during the last ice age (10 - 11,000 yrs. ago) and diver will swim around stalagtites and stagmites. The swim back to the surface is slow and at an angle with a long stay at 15' (decompression in disguise). There are numerous sharks lurking in the middle of the hole that can be seen while surfacing and enough interesting stuff at the 15' level to keep your attention. Also included is a stop at Half Moon Cay for picnic lunch - this has to be one of the most beautiful, pristine places on the planet. Take a pony bottle or a reliable buddy, or both.
 
After reading the responses here, I can see that the DM was obviously concerned about divers having enough air (and not wasting any by waiting for someone who can't equalize). Though, that DM/operator does need some improvement in the customer service department. They could easily have told that to divers who were signing up, before them embarked on the boat. Perhaps they did, and it was not relayed to you.
 
I just got back from Belize and dove the Blue Hole from the Belize Aggressor. We were limited to 8 mins at depth. We were told that at 60' if we still needed to equalize to take a minute but not any more because of our limited time at depth. If after a minute you still couldn't equalize to return to the boat. We also stopped at 70'-80' feet for a minute on the way up and another stop at 40' before our final safety stop.

I enjoyed the dive and thought it was an easy dive.
 
dkktsunami:
It's worth suffering the boat ride once to do this dive. The cavern was above sea level during the last ice age (10 - 11,000 yrs. ago) and diver will swim around stalagtites and stagmites. The swim back to the surface is slow and at an angle with a long stay at 15' (decompression in disguise). There are numerous sharks lurking in the middle of the hole that can be seen while surfacing and enough interesting stuff at the 15' level to keep your attention. Also included is a stop at Half Moon Cay for picnic lunch - this has to be one of the most beautiful, pristine places on the planet. Take a pony bottle or a reliable buddy, or both.

It's the only dive that I saw fins skimming the surface before we entered.

It may not be the best ever, but it's unique and worth doing. I'd do it again.

Via the Blue Hole.
 
I have realized in my short time here that I will get flamed for this, but I, too, did the Blue Hole as an inexperienced diver. However, I think I was partially aware of the limits of my abilities and fully aware of what it's like to experience equipment failure (see my OW incident thread). I just want to give some insight to my experience and I think that many of the operators take care to make the dive as safe as possible.

I approached a couple of dive shops about the dive after I received my OW certification asking whether or not it would be appropriate for me to dive the Hole. Each of them told me that it would most likely be fine but I should try to get some deeper dives to see how I would react. If I was fine after going to 80-100 ft I should be fine. Many of the dives outside of the reef on the cayes of Belize are typically 80ft. or more. So I did a few of those and all was well. I ended up going with a shop who knew full well I had been certified a few days before and said they took the appropriate precautions for new divers.

So we get out to the dive site and they cut the motors, gathered everyone together and gave us a good 10 minute dive briefing. Went through hand signals, what to do if you couldn't clear, what to do if you got narc'ed, talked about the deco station under the boat, etc. Then they split the group into experienced and inexperienced divers. We had about 8 divers with us (the inexperienced ones) and they sent 2 DM's (one to lead and one to tail). When we descended we stopped at the reef to regroup where 2 of the divers were sent back to the boat (we found out later that the DM was not comfortable taking them down). We descended the rest of the way which was somewhat anticlimactic given the lack of a reference point on the bottom. We hit 135 before we knew it, swam just inside the first row of stalagtites/mites (the more experienced group went further in) and then started a slow swimming ascent along the wall. We were covered by the DM's the entire dive, they were constantly checking air and status, and we all made it through. We also happened to get circled by about 10 reef sharks at the deco stop which was pretty impressive.

All in all I felt safe. There was an unknown factor with the depth (never been that deep, didn't know how I would react) but I felt like we had sufficient coverage. I later found out (over beers, after the dive) that they know that they "technically" should not take newbies down that deep but the simple fact of the matter was that there is a market for it and if they don't do it, others will. But they felt they had a very good system with an excellent safety record and that's why they do it.

Ok- that's all I have to say. I am donning my fire suit now.
 
All in all I felt safe. There was an unknown factor with the depth (never been that deep, didn't know how I would react) but I felt like we had sufficient coverage. I later found out (over beers, after the dive) that they know that they "technically" should not take newbies down that deep but the simple fact of the matter was that there is a market for it and if they don't do it, others will. But they felt they had a very good system with an excellent safety record and that's why they do it.

Ok- that's all I have to say. I am donning my fire suit now.
It's not a dive that a prudent experienced diver would suggest to a :newbie: and ScubaBoard is a safety oriented board, but - yeah, newbies do it all the time, and DMs are experienced at herding them. As long as no more than one may experience panic or problems, it's probably on the edge of safe diving.

Interesting that they split y'all up, with the newbies separate from the more experienced. On one hand, yeah - only fair to the more experienced, but my group all went together so the more experienced could back-up the lessors. I didn't even enter the cave, hanging out to watch the others - mother hen type here.
 

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