My thinking (see post above) was simply that if accident analysis is the goal we should err on the side of categorizing these things as dive incidents--at least until further analysis reveals otherwise.
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It was during the heydey of agency bashing. The argument was that if a diver suffered a heart attack during a dive, it must have been the result of panic, and panic is the result of inadequate OW instruction. I remember pointing out several times that the overwhelming majority of heart attacks on land occur around breakfast time, and the next most common time is during sleep. I would ask if inadequate instruction in eating breakfast or sleeping were to blame, but they never responded to that question.
For those who are of the opinion that a dive boat is a "taxi service" with no responsibility for diver safety, it is possible that the dive operator could be determined to be at least partially at fault. Let me emphasize that I have no information other than what is in the thread now and have no reason to suspect that the operator's actions were anything but stellar.
Here is a summary of a thread a few years ago about a similar incident in which the coast guard severely punished the dive operation. My memory is a bit hazy, but the key details will be accurate. In the incident, a diver struggled on the surface, likely having a cardiac event, and died. The coast guard investigated and determined that the crew's rescue efforts were inadequate and that they had not been properly trained for such rescues. Furthermore, the captain was not on deck supervising at the time, as is required. The captain was strongly sanctioned for failing to supervise and for failing to provide adequate training.
Again, as far as I know, the crew in this incident was properly trained and supervised, and they did all that they possibly could to save this individual. If not, ....
Here is a summary of a thread a few years ago about a similar incident in which the coast guard severely punished the dive operation. My memory is a bit hazy, but the key details will be accurate. In the incident, a diver struggled on the surface, likely having a cardiac event, and died. The coast guard investigated and determined that the crew's rescue efforts were inadequate and that they had not been properly trained for such rescues. Furthermore, the captain was not on deck supervising at the time, as is required. The captain was strongly sanctioned for failing to supervise and for failing to provide adequate training.
Again, as far as I know, the crew in this incident was properly trained and supervised, and they did all that they possibly could to save this individual. If not, ....
I think the fact that dude died in 20 feet of water might rule out a few diving related circumstances...assuming the dive was also in 20 feet of water or otherwise pretty shallow. Unlikely he got bent or other gas related issues. Of course we also don't know that he wasn't 300 lbs. and in horrible shape. So, "dive related"? Maybe. "Dive causation"? A stretch at this point without more info.
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No, the brief report neither identifies the incident as diving caused nor rules it out. Too many questions and we probably won't get those answers. Golf is a game. Scuba is a sport that can kill, but who knows.
He didn’t die in 20’ of water, he died at the hospital potentially as a result of being in the water doing a strenuous activity.
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If a postmortem examination deduces the victim drowned due to heart failure, DAN would classify this as a dive incident. If, however, the golfer had a seizure of sorts and steered his golf buggy into a lake and drowned, I’m sure the media would refer to it as a bizarre golfing incident.
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