Fish ID help

[spectrum]

Sorry, no pictures of this one....

Diving today at Ships Cove in Cape Elizabeth Maine I came across something had never seen before. We were diving at 30 feet in the ledges. I'll do my best to describe this critter. I could not find it in the books I have.

The fish was 10-12 inches in length

The profile reminded me of a small mouth bass. It was a fairly narrow fish. Height was perhaps 25% - 33% of the length. Quite flat sided.

Color was dark, maybe slightly reddish. At first glance I said skulpin. But it was a smooth fish.

Tail, pectoral and I think the dorsal fins were a deep bright cardinal red! This was the real surprise to me.

On the side of the fish, mid length near the bottom was a light gray patch with small black or dark gray spots or speckles.

The fish was hanging near the bottom and when we came upon it it cowered in a nook against a rock. it was very docile. Sweeping the water to get it back out in the open for a better look had no effect. I stopped short of contact.

This site is near a shipping channel so may it have been a cold fish from away that got pumped out?

Any clues?

Pete

 

[RIOceanographer]

I am not sure if I am understanding the description correctly but I'll take a shot in the dark.

You may be looking at either a redfish aka rosefish aka ocean perch (Sebastes marinus) or a black bellied rosefish (Helicolenus dactylopterus). The color on the redfish can vary somewhat so it could have grey patches even though most pictures you see are red or pinkish. They are native to the Gulf of Maine and usually live too deep to be encountered by divers but they can come shallow on occasion so that might explain why you'd never seen one before.

Take a look below and see if one of them resembles what what you saw.

Black-bellied rosefish
Rosefish
Helicolenus dactylopterus dactylopterus, Blackbelly rosefish : fisheries
Sebastes marinus, Ocean perch: fisheries, gamefish

 

[spectrum]

You have the right body shape but the overall color was very mundane except for the fins and lower side patches. We spend a few minutes studying it (with light) so I have pretty good mental image

 

[RIOceanographer]

If the shape of the other two is about right try this one, the Acadian Redfish (Sebastes fasciatus), it is the same genus as one of the first two I suggested:

File:Acadian redfish.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/Pict...ession=&lme=&StartRow=-1&TotRec=2&SortBy=iucn

Other than that, I am stumped. I went through my copy of Fishes of the Gulf of Maine from cover to cover without finding anything else which seemed to fit your description.

 

[spectrum]

Nope, Now I gotta buy a camera!

 

[fencingfish]

I'm intrigued now.

I went through my Atlantic Coast Fishes and attempted to key it out in Fishes of the Gulf of Maine too.

Were there two dorsal fins? or one long dorsal fin? any idea what shape the caudal fin was? Was the head shape also like a bass?

The only fish that I came up with vaguely matched your description was a red drum which has a range from MA to FL, so Maine would be pushing the northern limit a bit. Anyway, thought I'd throw in a picture for you to check. How does what you remember seeing compare with the images we've posted?

http://www.islandbreezepublishing.com/files/Red_Drum.jpg

 

[spectrum]

I can't recall the specifics on the fin shapes.

The red was also on the tail. red was deep and bold. Body color was darker.

I don't remember that spot near the tail. But there was a gray spotted/speckled patch mid length down low.

I remember the head shape as higher, less tapered down if you know hat I mean.

It was uncommonly docile, cowering in a corner.

Pete