First trip to Roatan

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Leaving for Roatan(Cocoview) 2 weeks from today. I have read a lot about the shore dives, Mary's Place, Clavins Crack, etc, but am also interested in the option of a 3 tank boat dive to the West End and other side of the island [Think I read about that somewhere] So, looking for opinions of what 3 sites to dive there? And in general maybe the 10 'do not miss' dives in Roatan. I am more interested the flora and fauna, than wrecks, and does not matter to me if the critters are loarge or small, just that this is a bunch of them. I realize this is a very subjective question, but just looking for feed back. Thanks
 
You assume that you will be given a choice as to what site you get to dive.

That is generally not the case.

BTY there is a splendid toadfish at calvin's crack.
 
I like El Aguilar. If your consumption is good, you can go from the wreck to some fun swim-thrus. Be sure and ask the DM.
Toadfish, huh?
I've seen a frogfish (DM said it was her first in 1000 dives), but not a Toadfish.
 
You assume that you will be given a choice as to what site you get to dive.

That is generally not the case.

BTY there is a splendid toadfish at calvin's crack.
Agreed, you don't always get a choice; but depending upon the dive op & the other divers requests, you may influence the decision. The DM and boat captain who know the local conditions(current etc) and are responsible for the group dive profile get the final say-so. However without any prior knowledge of the sites, how would I know what to ask/suggest?

I'll look for the toadfish...I have seen the splendid toad in Cozumel, did not think they lived anywhere else??
 
I love hole in the wall, but you gotta do it with someone who knows it. If they know the honeycombs behind the the hole its a great dive. However it is more about the incredible journey through the site than marine life. So if your DM doesn't know it REALLY well then it is probably worth missing.

The aguila is always nice, good for big grouper and Morays.

Texas/Pablos is fantastic for a drift in EAN32 Incredible wall at the start at 80ft, after 10 mins there you can do 30mins drifting over the 60ft sand shelf bottom drifting through giant barrel sponges with the possibility of various sharks if you a very lucky.


Spooky can be a great dive, i prefer to start it inside the reef and dive the channel with the boat moving while you are diving to meat you outside the channel, its a great dive.

Lighthouse, Overheat and Fish Den can be great dives if you are with EXPERIENCED Divemasters, i.e more than 2 years on the island minimum. Especially with a current running. Blue channel is best only done if it has been dry for a couple of days. Same could be said for Spooky.

Thats is just the start of the North side.
 
Agreed, you don't always get a choice; but depending upon the dive op & the other divers requests, you may influence the decision. The DM and boat captain who know the local conditions(current etc) and are responsible for the group dive profile get the final say-so. However without any prior knowledge of the sites, how would I know what to ask/suggest?

I'll look for the toadfish...I have seen the splendid toad in Cozumel, did not think they lived anywhere else??


this one is not a "splendid" toad fish....it is bigger and blackish gray in color there are two at Calvins Crack and one at another site that I cannot remember the name of right now......also if you want some feedback on favorite dive sites or questions about the diving go here CoCo Chat
it is where we are when we are not at CCV....my fave not to miss is Menagrie and Valley of the Kings but you will probably get to dive them while you are there...there are 4-50ft boats and they all make the favorite sites during the week.... anyway come on over to cocochat:D
 
We did the Dolphin snorkel over at Anthony's Key. That was very cool.

We were supposed to go back in July but doubt we're going to make it, but next time we go I am going to do the Shark dive.
 
Roatan Cocoview.... the shore dives, Mary's Place, Clavins Crack.... the option of a 3 tank boat dive to the West End and other side of the island ...what 3 sites to dive there? And in general maybe the 10 'do not miss' dives in Roatan. I am more interested the flora and fauna, than wrecks, and does not matter to me if the critters are loarge or small, just that this is a bunch of them. I realize this is a very subjective question,

If you come to the South Side of Roatan (where CCV is), and if you have in mind finding lots of critters, you will really enjoy the lush shallow walls that are well exposed to the sunlight. Because~ The little critters that make this area famous live here, as well.

When ships are "parked" at shallow depths, the critters use them as "structure" just like they utilize the shallow walls. The two most commonly visited wrecks on the South side sit in depths of 22~65 fsw, so not only is the diving easy (and with long BT's), but because of them being parked in the upper levels of the water column, they are prized as critter condos being in the phototropic zone for life.

To enjoy the South side's treasures you have to be, by certain standards, an "advanced diver". No, don't expect rough conditions, but to fully enjoy the bounty of micro delights, you must have excellent buoyancy skills and good observational abilities. Can you hover and poke your faceplate in close- then with just a breath or light motion- ease yourself up and away? That's the way to do it with these little guys.

Many folks ask, "Do we have to follow the DM's?" At CCV, they will inform you that you may do as you please, as long as you keep them advised of your intentions pre-dive. If you don't follow the DM, you are blowing it, big time. It takes years of patience and observation to see and understand how they locate the delights that you want to see. You will see 10% of the possibilities if you thunder off on your own.

You don't have to worry about pack mentality and crowding at CCV. The DM finds something, then as the trail of divers strings out and behind, everyone stops for a look in turn. I try to stay close, yet out of the way, so that I can understand what they have found. More than once I pull up for "my turn" and because of my skills. I simply can't see the critter that made them atwitter. (even though it's right there in front of my mask!) Flashlights and laser pointers make great tools for this.

You can read me waxing on about the efficacy of carrying a small glass magnifier. A 10x $1 flea market/craft show special (made of glass) will open up a whole new world for you~ especially on the South side of Roatan.

Favorite dives? Parrothead (above poster) will smile when I say this, but for many of us CCV habitues, the "Front Yard", the shore dive, that's our favorite. You literaly take 40 steps from your room and dive locker, you're diving. I see more stuff out in front of the resort, most times in the shallows of the Front Yard, and only go out to the Wreck as a sidelight.

The Prince Albert Wreck is a Nicaraguan Tanker 140' long that sits upright in 35~65fsw, and she tops out at 22ft of depth. On the South side, she is well protected from storms, unlike the extremely deep wrecks of the North. She is a 3 minute snorkel/scuba from the resort, but that's only if you hurry and that is ill advised.

I never tire of this wreck. It is rife with animals, many are tiny and all but invisible. Some are quite large, yet so well camouflaged that many times they escape the view of most divers.

I dive it three times each day when I am there, one of those visits is a night dive. Each day, there are morning and afternoon two tank boat dives. On the second boat dive, many folks select varying lengths of "drop off" dives along one of two walls and then SCUBA their way back to the shore exit at the resort.

I am lazy. I have the boatsman and DM drop me right on top of the PA Wreck where I dawdle for an hour and most times longer before paddling in to lunch (or dinner). This 23 year obsession with this wreck has served me well. My wife (aka Herself) has a resident Octopus so well "trained" with repetitive encounters that she can pretty well summon it for an appearance at her discretion. I just enjoy all of the macro activity and marvel at the lush coral growth in such a shallow and well lit environment.

In that the original anchor chain is laid out all the way to and from the resort through the coral heads, this is a favorite night dive for many~ you simply can not get lost... it is physically tied to your room. When I am there, I go out every night, sometimes twice. A lot of people do these sunrise dives, but I am snoring in one of the over the water cabanas.

I love hole in the wall, but you gotta do it with someone who knows it.

As with many Islands, there can sometimes be more than one dive site that has a common name. In this case, and for obvious reasons (once you see them) there are indeed two Hole in the Wall dive sites on Roatan. Will is refering to the one on the North side which is lovely, but I'll bet that even he:14:likely hasn't made it over to the far Eastern side of the South side and seen the odd Hole in the Wall we have over yonder. The North Side Hole is a pleasant dive, the SE Hole is a bizarre upward slanted chimney... not for the Club Dread diver. :eyebrow:

Real trivia department: Many Roatan transplants refer to Sandy Bay as the place on the North Side where the North Americans have built large houses. Ask an old timer and he'll poke a gnarled finger at the map where CCV and FIBR sits. Hey~ at least there's no Georgetown. How'd that happen?

When they do take you around the horn for an all day trip to the North side, you will dive the best sites available due to wind and wave action, which is often an issue up that way. Sometimes CCV offers the North side, sometimes the North side boats are scampering South to get out of the weather up there. In short... they'll take you to the best stuff that they can. Remember- North side diving is quite deep in comparison, so it will not be offered on Day One. The DM's want to make sure you have your gear and buoyancy in order before doing that. This makes the window of opportunity a bit smaller in terms of weather being agreeable.

I suggest that you relax on the matter of getting to dive the North. the North side is an excellent version of common Caribbean diving largley due to the Conservation Zone and Marine Reserve that they have established for a few years. It has led to attracting some of the larger adults of fish and the more visible sized Crabs and Lobsters. Stuff that is getting hard to find in the Caribbean. These larger animals do like the cooler and deeper waters of the North, so they are more abundant there.

Here is a concurrently running thread on that topic specifically: http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/bay-islands/226845-north-side-v-south-side.html

Once you have seen all of the dive sites, and if you do want some adventure, you will learn that the dive sites they point you at might not be the only attraction nearby. There are many tight and restrictive overhead environments that you can explore- but again- remember to advise your DM. Just recently I was diving Mary's Place with a long time resident/dive operator and an oft returning guest diver (like me). I convinced them to let the group do Mary's Place first- we would take a "little detour" to a little place called Scutt's Slot. It's a tight, shallow overhead environment that is not for the noob.

Many of us prefer Calvin's Crack over Mary's Place, but even at CC, there are secret passages and hidden holes. You gotta look around.

What's my point? There is something for all levels, but to truly get the most out of the South side- to walk away after that SCUBA week, if you want to see the joys of the South side- you better have some good buoyancy skills and sharp peepers!

this one is not a "splendid" toad fish....there are 4-50ft boats and they all make the favorite sites during the week

Well, he might not be splendid, but I would say he is pretty damned spectacular, anyway.

And that thing about hitting the CoCo Chat link? A no brainer for someone coming to CCV. (or an advanced diver going to FIBR)

Another excellent link that logs weather and what was spotted and photographed is Dockside Dive Center Log. You can page back through many years of weekly entries. Live "dive cam"? look at CCV Webcams

There is occasionally spotted a Frogfish at 90' off the wall on the Shore Dive. What you can almost always spot there are the Yellow Tailed Jawfish and even the Spotted Eagle Rays are a fairly common sight around the shallows of the Wreck.

Managheri is a favorite dive site for many, and it has become so for an unfortunate reason. It is the most commonly dived site of a neighboring resort, and their DM's aren't as adept at critter spotting, so they tend to feed the fish on dives. This gets their generally less skilled divers all excited by the (large and easily seen) fish life, but fish do become quite locally habituated to food=divers. By locally, I mean just that- a couple of hundred yards away and the fish return to normalcy.

There is on this dive, a spectacularly mobile Green Moray who has his superhighway of nooks and crannies all laid out along the descending reef wall and rockets along, in and out- as you ghost along. He usually disappears only to rejoin you on your shallow return along the top of the wall. Very friendly critter- maybe for the same reasons as the fish.

Go slow, stay shallow, dive all five CCV daily dives. When you move along the wooden walkways, look down. Look for my baby (16") Nurse Shark!
 
Hello SC Native,

Good to see the folks from the Carolinas headed this way. We have two from NC on staff. I spent several years at Clemson finishing up grad school and then working for good ole Thomas Green. I loved it. Eventually I moved here b/c I love diving and teaching people to dive.

I miss the sweet tea more than can be imagined. I could also go for a crab boil and a week-end at Charleston.

I work in West-End at Coconut Tree Divers. Among my favorite sites are Hole in the Wall, Spooky Channel, Blue Channel, Bear's Den, Texas, Fish Den, Mandy's Eel Garden, The Aguila, Canyon Reef, and Dixies as there is a sea-horse right off the mooring at 63 feet. At Coco View you'll get to shore dive the Prince Albert. It's a great site as is Mary's Place. I almost forgot Cara a Cara, the shark dive. If you've never done one, I highly recommend it. Las Palmas is home to Waihuka, the dive shop who does that dive.

Have a great vacation!!!!
 
Thanks for the reminder about Scutt's Slot. That was a great day. Did you ever get Liz to draw the placemat for it? We'll be there in 12 days....I'll have ya with me on that one!
 

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