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My wife and I are recently certified and are just begining to plan our first carribean dive trip.

our requirements:
1) a week long trip in January 2014 would prefer it to include MLK day (Jan 20th) to save a day of vacation.

2) Destination served by Southwest or AirTran (I have enough points to get free flights for both of us). We're thinking either Aruba or Cozumel via Canucun, but other options are nassau, montego bay, punta cana, san juan, or a cruise out of one of the major US ports.

3) I'd like to keep the non travel costs around $1,500 including everything room, diving, food, etc. (we could probably swing up to 2k if we needed to make it a great vacation)

4) not picky about the hotel we don't need anything super fancy. However, we would prefer something on the water and a bonus if it has a kitchen.

5) We don't want to go somewhere where diving is the only thing to do, my wife likes diving but she's not sure it's all she wants to do on her week of vacation.

let us know what your best suggestions are. Thanks!
 
Having been to Cancun recently, I would avoid it again at all costs. Horrible, crowded, disorganized experience.

Aruba has some of the same issues as Cancun, but the scale of them is much less. From Aruba you can get to Bonaire easily via Tiara Air or Insel.

However, while Bonaire is outstanding for diving, it is not so great for certain other things such as night life. There are plenty of other things to do such as boat excursions to Klein Bonaire beaches or windsurfing or birding or mangrove swamp kayaking. It depends on what you want. Also, your post indicates a strong desire to go low budget. If so, you really need a kitchen because eating out will significantly up the cost and I'm not sure that you can meet your $1500 budget.

One problem that you have is that the places your preferred airlines fly are not necessarily those with the best diving. A cruise might meet your needs better, if you dive at the various islands where the ship stops. I have no idea of the cost of a cruise plus diving.
 
Your biggest problem here is timeframe. JANUARY is still cold in the Caribbean, some places the diving is minimal due to windy conditions canceling boats. I wouldn't go anywhere during that time period and expect to dive every day.

For your first dive trip, following certification, you really really really want to have a GREAT experience. I would rethink your calendar.

If you insist on going in January, I would consider Cozumel. Excellent diving, hotels from rustic to luxury, diving in am, then other activities the rest of day if you want.

Bonaire is great, but it is shore diving and there is no reason to go there quite yet. Get comfortable with diving, get your buoyancy under control and then consider going there. BUT there is not alot to do there but dive.

robin
 
I'd probably look into Curacao. I haven't been there, but I've been to Bonaire, which was excellent and apparently has bery similar diving to Curacao. Reasons for Curacao:

Short flight from Aruba, which you can get to on points.
Easy diving - no current, best stuff to see is shallow (30' to 60')
Boat dives are probably cheap (check this...they are cheap in Bonaire) if you don't like shore diving
Curacao has sandy beaches, which Bonaire doesn't - good for other activities like swimming and lounging
Curacao has better nightlife
Both islands are as far south as you can get in the Caribbean, so water will be warmer than elsewhere in January.

I loved Bonaire, but as others have mentioned, non-diving ativities are a bit limited. Hope that helps.

James
 
Your biggest problem here is timeframe. JANUARY is still cold in the Caribbean, some places the diving is minimal due to windy conditions canceling boats. I wouldn't go anywhere during that time period and expect to dive every day.

For your first dive trip, following certification, you really really really want to have a GREAT experience. I would rethink your calendar.

If you insist on going in January, I would consider Cozumel. Excellent diving, hotels from rustic to luxury, diving in am, then other activities the rest of day if you want.

Bonaire is great, but it is shore diving and there is no reason to go there quite yet. Get comfortable with diving, get your buoyancy under control and then consider going there. BUT there is not alot to do there but dive.

robin

OP is from South Dakota!! Not sure that cold is a consideration. I dive the Caribbean in January and February all the time. Almost every place has excellent diving in the winter. It isn't cold to me and only rarely have I been cancelled due to weather! Awesome way to escape the doldrums of mid winter.

That all being said I agree with the second quote. Cozumel is an excellent place to log your first dive trip. Diving is great, infrastructure is well developed and it is cheap! Also in my early days of diving I did not have a ton of money and I always seemed to make a January Key Largo trip work. Easy to get to, fairly cheap. Weather is more of a concern there, but again, I rarely got weathered out just a little rough sometimes. As you get more experience then you can venture farther afield.
 
I would choose the Cancun routing and do the bag drag to Cozumel over any of the other destinations. Second choice would be Aruba but transiting to Bonaire or Curacao. Expect a few windy days in Cozumel during January with the possibility of Port closures, this shouldn't be a problem in Bonaire or Curacao.
Cozumel has many choices for lodging and diving, it really depends what you're looking for. Stay in or choose to town and eat at the many great restaurants in town vs. an AI. You should be able to get a room for under $80 per night non AI, last year at Christmas we paid about that amount per night at Hotel Cozumel including breakfast. A lot of operators pick up at varies locations starting at the downtown piers and south.

Since you are new divers, the choice of operators is very important. A smaller operator would be my choice and Jeremy at Living Underwater would be my selection, nice small boat, steel tanks to extend your bottom time and he is very good with new divers. Plus he is from Minnesota. Aldora and Liquid Blue are the other operators who dive steel tanks and I recommend both operators.

Either Cozumel of Bonaire/Curacoa would be great locations for your first trip but I'd choose Cozumel.
 
So after doing a little reading about the suggestions it sounds like we really need to up our budget to at least the 2k. heck just 5 days of diving with living underwater would be a grand by the time you figure in tax and tip. Is there any decent shore diving in cozumel (or aruba for that matter)?

I like the idea of bonaire or curacao, especially the price and quality of shore diving, but I agree for our first few ocean dives it would probly be best to be in a group off a boat. We've been diving pretty regularly in the river up here but I'm sure it's much different with the surf and currents and such. That and the island hopper flights would eat up a fair amount of our budget (~350 to curracao and ~425 to bonaire total) and add at least 1 day of travel. So I think we'll save those for a future trip.

Nobody suggested staying on aruba, is the diving bad there? from the webites it looks decent and a few people here have given clive good reviews, some of the wrecks look especially cool. a couple of our friends have said aruba was the best vacation they've ever been on but they're not divers.

We've been to cozumel a couple times off cruise ships and enjoyed it and I think this is probably what fits our requirements best. But I sense the wife is more excited about aruba just to try something different.
 
So after doing a little reading about the suggestions it sounds like we really need to up our budget to at least the 2k. heck just 5 days of diving with living underwater would be a grand by the time you figure in tax and tip. Is there any decent shore diving in cozumel (or aruba for that matter)?

I like the idea of bonaire or curacao, especially the price and quality of shore diving, but I agree for our first few ocean dives it would probly be best to be in a group off a boat. We've been diving pretty regularly in the river up here but I'm sure it's much different with the surf and currents and such. That and the island hopper flights would eat up a fair amount of our budget (~350 to curracao and ~425 to bonaire total) and add at least 1 day of travel. So I think we'll save those for a future trip.

Nobody suggested staying on aruba, is the diving bad there? from the webites it looks decent and a few people here have given clive good reviews, some of the wrecks look especially cool. a couple of our friends have said aruba was the best vacation they've ever been on but they're not divers.

We've been to cozumel a couple times off cruise ships and enjoyed it and I think this is probably what fits our requirements best. But I sense the wife is more excited about aruba just to try something different.

I have done both Aruba and Bonaire. Diving on Aruba is OK but does not compare to Bonaire. But there are certainly more above the wave things to do in Aruba. I have not dove Curacao but hear that it falls somewhere between these two. Aruba may be the most expensive. Consider VRBO, especially for Aruba but likely will not be ocean front in Aruba unless big bucks.

I believe prices will be "high season" at both.
 
So after doing a little reading about the suggestions it sounds like we really need to up our budget to at least the 2k. heck just 5 days of diving with living underwater would be a grand by the time you figure in tax and tip. Is there any decent shore diving in cozumel (or aruba for that matter)?

I like the idea of bonaire or curacao, especially the price and quality of shore diving, but I agree for our first few ocean dives it would probly be best to be in a group off a boat. We've been diving pretty regularly in the river up here but I'm sure it's much different with the surf and currents and such. That and the island hopper flights would eat up a fair amount of our budget (~350 to curracao and ~425 to bonaire total) and add at least 1 day of travel. So I think we'll save those for a future trip.

Nobody suggested staying on aruba, is the diving bad there? from the webites it looks decent and a few people here have given clive good reviews, some of the wrecks look especially cool. a couple of our friends have said aruba was the best vacation they've ever been on but they're not divers.

We've been to cozumel a couple times off cruise ships and enjoyed it and I think this is probably what fits our requirements best. But I sense the wife is more excited about aruba just to try something different.

As a newbie diver, there are a few things you need to understand:

There are DIVE destinations and there are Destinations with diving. Think about that for a minute.

Cozumel is a DIVE destination.... the diving is fabulous there, other activities are secondary.
Bonaire is a DIVE destination.... ditto.

Aruba is a destination with diving.... people go there for fancy hotels, beaches, casinos and nightlife. Diving is secondary.
Cancun is a destination with diving.... ditto Aruba.


If you want a decent diving vacation on your budget, in January, I would definitely consider ScubaClubCozumel. It is a dive resort, everyone there is a diver or with a diver. The diving, hotel, and food are included in package price. It is also walking distance to town, for other activities you may want. The front desk can arrange things for you, too. It is NOT a luxury resort. Read my trip reports and look at my videos and photos. They also have killer JANUARY deals as it is the off-season.
Cozumel Scuba Diving at Scuba Club Cozumel Dive Resort and Scuba Cozumel Dive Shop

Fly directly into Cozumel if you can. It will save you a day of hassles getting over by bus and ferry.

http://www.rnrscuba.net/2012_Cozumel/2012_SCCTripReport.html
Cozumel - April 2010
https://vimeo.com/album/1899948
https://vimeo.com/album/81331

Just my recommendation... meeting all the needs for a trip you have listed.

robin
 
Looking at some of your other options:

Nassau is all boat diving - 2 dives are $100/120. Most of the beachfront resorts are pricier also. There's a couple of B&B's that are cheaper that are not in town. Some of the older hotels are not in the best areas and won't have kitchens. I have seen some decent deals at the British Colonial Hilton surprisingly - it's downtown. It's also a major cruise port and other areas are sort of marginal. Nice beaches though, beautiful white sand.

Stuart Cove's is the premier operator there. Except for Bahama Divers, they've pretty much under priced everyone else into closing. They bundle diving/hotel etc. in package deals on their website. They're also 45mins. south of town with a free shuttle.

Punta Cana is where people go to play golf. Diving there is secondary at best. Also all boat diving IIRC. We looked at it once and never again.

I have read here that a lot of Jamaica is seriously over fished.

All the better diving in San Juan is elsewhere, either south or west sides. Easily driveable in a morning. I've been there once. There aren't a lot of dive ops in San Juan since there's no business. About the only shore dive there is a shallow one off a park - a training site. I've read it's often murky.

I think your idea of shore diving to save is a good one but it might be best on Curacao for you.

Reasons are that Bonaire entries are over ironshore and coral rubble so difficult while balancing gear and helping your buddy. It's slick, hard and frequently in the surf line so hard to see. I really don't know anyone who never got cut up, scratched up or sprained something there. Unless they only dove from the resort docks or boats.

A Bonaire advantage is the reef starts fairly close offshore - sometimes within 40' or so. No dive sites on Bonaire outside of the resorts in town have any sort of facilities or amenities - bring everything you need and nothing else as there's some theft there also - while you're diving your vehicle may be gone thru. At the southern dive sites, you'll see other divers at many of the nearby sites, you can see 3-4 in either direction as it's flat scrubland. North it's more hilly. Several times in the afternoon we've been the only ones at a site.

Curacao has almost all sandy beach entries as dive sites. Almost all have an on-site dive operator for tanks/rentals etc. Most have some food option also - a couple have nice beachfront restaurants. The reef there starts farther out, often a short 5min. surface swim to the marker. At some of the western sites, the beach breaks the ironshore cliffs so good nav. skills are optimal. Curacao also has the Dive Bus. They do escorted shore diving but it's priced accordingly - 2/$100. They will pick you up, take you to the better sites and help you get oriented. Might be worth it once or twice. You will have to drive farther between shore dives on Curacao also, most are a 5-10min. drive to the water from the main road that bisects the island. Car rentals seem to run about $3-500. Most roads to the dive sites are paved or good dirt roads so you don't need a truck/jeep.

Either is very similar diving, I'd give the edge to Curacao for more interesting dives in general. A lot of Bonaire starts to look very similar later in the week. There's also some shallow wrecks on Curacao, either the plane wreck or the Tugboat - one of the signature Curacao dives. It's at 15' on the bottom, the nearby pier is under 40' and both are good dives.

The Hooker wreck on Bonaire is outside your skill set unless done with a DM. There's also a couple of shallow wrecks off Bonaire but they're old pleasure craft so not much to see. There's nothing on Bonaire like some of the verticality you can get off Curacao. Not quite deep walls but close.

If you really want to blow the budget, there's a Dolphin Dive on Curacao also. With Ocean Encounters main shop at the Sea Aquarium. $200pp...

Entry pictures/site descriptions for many sites on all three islands: http://www.shorediving.com/Earth/ABC/index.htm

I've never been to Aruba. We bypassed it for both Bonaire and Curacao. If you can get to Aruba by late afternoon, there's an 8PM flight from there to either Bonaire or Curacao. Check Insel Air, Dutch Antilles Express or Tiara Air's websites for details. Coming back unless you have a mid-morning or later flight from Aruba you may have to overnight. The first flights leave Bonaire/Curacao around 8AM and it's about an hour since many of the Bonaire flights also stop on Curacao. Even though it's the ABC Islands, Curacao is the middle one.

Aruba has a dozen shore dives, beaches, nightlife, shopping, casino's etc.
Curacao has 4 dozen shore dives, beaches, nightlife, famous shopping, casinos etc.
Bonaire has 6 dozen shore dives, no beaches (except Lac Bay), not much nightlife, one casino. People go there to dive.

I don't think you could be waterfront in your price range on Bonaire as many of the accommodations are bundled diving/driving/unlt'd tank rental packages with double occupancy rates. Typically around $1200-1800.

Unless you rent something privately on vrbo.com. Sunbelt Rentals also lists some. Just about everybody will have some sort of shore dive package option available also. Staying a block to several miles inland there are inexpensive options - Coco Palm Garden/Casa Oleander or Lagoen Hills are two. I believe just about all their units have full kitchens. I think Lagoen Hills also offers pre-stocking if you're arriving late.

On Curacao either east or west of town you could find something either beachfront or very close to it. Likely a condo/apt. with a kitchen. We've stayed at two, one was $125-45/nt. for a 2BR condo in a resort area 10mins. west of town. http://www.piscaderabayresort.com/index.php?page_id=2

The other place was 1/2 hr. drive from town, $85/nt. for a 1BR oceanfront (60' above the water) apt. with a minimal kitchen. Drive back to town for just about everything (except diving) from there: http://www.mydreamapartments.com/Englishindex.html

One I just saw referred was Atlantis Apts./Diving. In town, shop is on-site, shore dive there and some of the better eastern dive sites are probably 5-10mins. drive. IDK anything else about it.

The only AI on Curacao - Sunscape - is near there also but IDK if it's within your budget.

Finally check out anything on Info Bonaire - The Bonaire Information Site - The Most Current and Up-To-Date Information or Curacao Travel- Caribbean, Curacao, Dutch Caribbean if you've not seen them.

P.S. U.S. Dollars are the official currency on Bonaire now. Guess where their business comes from.
 
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