Fire on dive boat Conception in CA

[Alan Browne]

Not sure if this is fleet-wide but I was aboard the Rock Island Aggressor in Palau this May. They had an all-metal pair of open cubbies for charging. Each cubby had US-standard 120VAC receptacles.

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They only allowed charging small stuff like shavers and cell phones in cabins. Stewards looked out for violations but there was nothing that would prevent charging larger stuff overnight in violation of the rules.

Perhaps a job for the "night watchman" that has been cited as allegedly missing from the Conception can look for violations?

 

[tursiops]

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Those graphics are far from correct; what makes you think the article's words are correct?

 

[EricTheDood]

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[Alan Browne]

^If that barb is aimed at me, then do, please, point me at better graphics and words.

Anyone can see that that boat was not equipped to evacuate 46 people in quick order from the bunk room even if there was no fire.

 

[EricTheDood]

Stewards looked out for violations but there was nothing that would prevent charging larger stuff overnight in violation of the rules.

Vigilante enforcement would be in order.

1st offense: a stern talking-to
2nd offense: gear thrown overboard
3rd offense: offender thrown overboard

 

[tursiops]

^If that barb is aimed at me, then do, please, point me at better graphics and words.

Anyone can see that that boat was not equipped to evacuate 46 people in quick order from the bunk room even if there was no fire.

Yes, it was aimed at you. Sorry I wasn't clearer. You are cherry-picking some things that have been published, many of which have been debunked, many times. the graphic is wrong - look elsewhere to support your opinions.

Perhaps a job for the "night watchman" that has been cited as allegedly missing from the Conception can look for violations?

No evidence the anchor watch was missing. Read the facts summary that has been posted.

 

[KevinNM]

I'm still wondering where "roaming night watchman" appears in the relevant CFRs or case law.

 

[tursiops]

Never mind. Not worth it. RTFT.

 

[Alan Browne]

Yes, it was aimed at you. Sorry I wasn't clearer. You are cherry-picking some things that have been published, many of which have been debunked, many times. the graphic is wrong - look elsewhere to support your opinions.


No evidence the anchor watch was missing. Read the facts summary that has been posted.

True about the watch - no evidence yet -

But the graphic presented is more than adequate to show inadequate escape. Over bunks to get the rear hatch? (this has also been mentioned elsewhere in detail. Anyone who believes that space can evacuate 46 people in an emergency with BOTH routes available is soaked in optimistic hubris - no fire needed to make it dangerous. Won't even get to issues like being asleep, not alert, wrapped in blankets, bunk bed heaven, etc. the possibility (unknown) that there were no lights, smoke filled, etc. and so on).

Sorry, this old hag of a boat should not have been resurrected after it was stolen and beached...

 

[george_austin]

Forget about a fire for a second because in the case of a Li-Io battery / multi cell pack, its the Hydrogen Fluoride gas that knocks you out relatively instantly. A fatal dose of inhaled Hydrogen Fluoride mimics drowning due to the resultant pulmonary edema - victims drown in their own lung fluid. When I read the first reports from the sheriff stating that four victims pulled from the water showed physical trauma consistent with drowning, it really got me thinking. Read the White Paper below:

Toxic fluoride gas emissions from lithium-ion battery fires

I'm not saying batts and or a charger is what caused the fire but its interesting to note that survivors of small to (moderate) amounts of of Hydrogen Fluoride poisoning typically show signs of contact within 12-24 hours and will then be treated.
I suppose you could say that Hydrogen Fluoride is the "weak sister" to Hydrogen Cyanide which is what 3 US states still use in their gas chambers to execute people on death row.