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Fire on dive boat Conception in CA

Discussion in 'Accidents and Incidents' started by divezonescuba, Sep 2, 2019.

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  1. markmud

    markmud Self Reliant Diver--On All Dives. ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Isle Royale is U.S. It is all U.S. territorial water from MN to Isle Royale.

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  2. BlueTrin

    BlueTrin DIR Practitioner

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    Indeed, there is a very big difference between keeping an open mind and casting suspicion without evidence.
     
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  3. doctormike

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    We have been discussing the specifics of the emergency egress from the bunk room, and I think that there has been some misunderstanding of the actual layout - at least on my part. Based on the photos that were posted upthread, I assumed that the escape hatch was above a bunk, as did several other posters. But I just found this drawing (from the Southern California News Group), which has the escape hatch in the shower...

    Not sure that it makes much difference, but good to know the actual layout. Maybe on the Spree and the sister ship in this fleet, the design was different? Maybe this drawing is wrong? I thought I saw something different on a TV animated graphic.

    I can't tell from the drawing how you get into the shower room from the bunk space, or what the signage was... I also can't tell what the rectangular column is just aft of the shower room wall

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  4. Scuba-74

    Scuba-74 Manta Ray

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    It's been discussed several hundred posts ago that the actual hatch from the bunk room is not shown on this picture. Shower room is not connected to the bunk room, and even if it had a hatch as this picture suggests, it couldn't have been used from the bunk room.

    The rectangular column just aft of the shower room wall is a storage closet.
     
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  5. Wookie

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    I’m not saying the picture is wrong, but reporters made it up.

    Go back to earwax.
     
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    Got it. That makes more sense...
     
  7. EricTheDood

    EricTheDood DIR Practitioner

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    A few folks who have dived the Conception said the drawing was wrong.
     
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  8. Ron Lee

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    The point is that in this case the emergency hatch at some point appeared to be worthless regardless of ladder or berth leading to it.

    I suspect that the final report will reveal major problems in several areas:

    1) If this was due to a charging station then how that was allowed to continue and its setup may both be flawed for some batteries subject to catastrophic failure.

    2) Overnight watch that should be one that checked often for fire either was not working or was poorly implemented.

    3) Automatic fire/smoke detection and alerting mechanisms may need improvement.

    4) Emergency egress from the bunk area needs improvement to account for both current egress poiunts being inaccessible.

    I covered most of these points last night.
     
  9. KevinNM

    KevinNM DIR Practitioner

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    Someone familiar with the boat mentioned there was a second emergency hatch that ran out of the shower compartment. They don’t show the one out of the bunk room, but the one in the shower exists.
     
  10. doctormike

    doctormike ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Well, that's one point. But the fact that in this particular disaster, the hatch may have been useless due to conditions above, doesn't necessarily mean that any discussion of or improvement to the hatch access from below wouldn't be useful in other situations.
     
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