Fiona Sharp death in Bonaire

[Bob DBF]

The context of this subthread was two non-ccr divers observing the gear of a random rebreather diver that they encountered, with which gear they had no training or experience. So not sure that this is a case where they were obligated to do anything.

You failed to mention the random rebreather diver was focused on a project, not necessarily on his gear. There would be no thought of "helping" If the RB Pilot was focused on his diving. I would do the same thing as if I saw an OC diver ignoring a dive computer flashing red, or an SPG in the red, just wander by and break their concentration and see if the notice, or point it out. Of course my experience is on OC, so the chances of correctly assessing that situation would be more accurate. I've gotten the wave off, or the middle finger salute before, so I'll get over that, but it has been of help on occasion.

Narrow focus of attention is a problem for everyone, notice that cell phone related deaths are on the rise, for example.



Bob

 

[doctormike]

You failed to mention the random rebreather diver was focused on a project, not necessarily on his gear. There would be no thought of "helping" If the RB Pilot was focused on his diving. I would do the same thing as if I saw an OC diver ignoring a dive computer flashing red, or an SPG in the red, just wander by and break their concentration and see if the notice, or point it out. Of course my experience is on OC, so the chances of correctly assessing that situation would be more accurate. I've gotten the wave off, or the middle finger salute. before so I'll get over that, but it has been of help on occasion.

Narrow focus of attention is a problem for everyone, notice that cell phone related deaths are on the rise, for example.



Bob

I know what you are saying is well intentioned, but do you check the SPGs of any OC photographers that you run across?

 

[Bob DBF]

I know what you are saying is well intentioned, but do you check the SPGs of any OC photographers that you run across?

You mistake a chance sighting of a potentially dangerous condition with going out of my way to annoy people.



Bob

 

[jon hunter]

Thanks to everyone for kind wishes, I'm Fiona's brother. I've been scouring the internet trying to find out what went wrong. I'm an open water diver and was going for nitrox certification next year to stir the **** out of her... But reading through everyone's pseudo analysis give's me some idea. Hopefully we can learn from this...

Very sad to hear about your sister, I met her at SPUMS this year and we dived together . I really liked her , and the world will be less bright and fun with her gone. Sincere condolences

 

[Ayisha]

The context of this subthread was two non-ccr divers observing the gear of a random rebreather diver that they encountered, with which gear they had no training or experience. So not sure that this is a case where they were obligated to do anything.

You keep referring to a "random rebreather diver" that we "encountered." You seem to have missed right from my first post that all 4 rb divers are friends of ours and we have been diving with some of them before and since. No random rb diver was encountered. We spent most of our dive with them, with one of the other rb divers leading our pack, as he normally does. The "leader" checks on us often and keeps tabs on our gas out of habit, but they don't necessarily check on each other often.

The rb diver in question told us afterwards that he never even realized that we had noticed his HUD or moved closer to check on him (and his eyes never appeared to leave the pumpkin just like his hands on the pumpkin and knife until he took care of it). He didn't mind at all and in fact thanked us for checking on him.

We're still friends 6 years later, so I guess he didn't mind, unlike you or wedivebc, who were not there. You do you.

 

[Ayisha]

You failed to mention the random rebreather diver was focused on a project, not necessarily on his gear. There would be no thought of "helping" If the RB Pilot was focused on his diving. I would do the same thing as if I saw an OC diver ignoring a dive computer flashing red, or an SPG in the red, just wander by and break their concentration and see if the notice, or point it out. Of course my experience is on OC, so the chances of correctly assessing that situation would be more accurate. I've gotten the wave off, or the middle finger salute before, so I'll get over that, but it has been of help on occasion.

Narrow focus of attention is a problem for everyone, notice that cell phone related deaths are on the rise, for example.

Bob

Yes, very focused. He didn't even notice that we moved closer or were looking at him. After his HUD was flashing green for a bit, he looked around and saw us, but had no idea that we had been closer to him for a little while.

 

[hroark2112]

Just so the non-CCR divers can understand what was going on, when the HUD goes from blinking green to yellow to 'rapidly' red, it means the PO2 in the loop has dropped to .9. At 30' that means the oxygen percentage in the loop is roughly 45%. Totally safe to breathe.

 

[chillyinCanada]

Let's not lose our focus on the purpose of this thread please.

It is of no importance to this thread if any lights were blinking.

Let's try to keep in mind that Fiona's brother is hoping we can help him reach some measure of understanding.

 

[cathal]

Let's not lose our focus on the purpose of this thread please.

It is of no importance to this thread if any lights were blinking.

Let's try to keep in mind that Fiona's brother is hoping we can help him reach some measure of understanding.

Well said. My deepest condolences to Fiona's family. Do we know has the diluent used been definitively established i.e. has gas analysis taken place post dive?

 

[tursiops]

Well said. My deepest condolences to Fiona's family. Do we know has the diluent used been definitively established i.e. has gas analysis taken place post dive?

The dil was air, gases were analyzed, according to Buddy Dive staff.