I can offer weights on the 3 HP80s and 3 HP100s that I own. Average weight full is 37.6 lbs for the HP80 and 45.3 for the HP100. I can't give buoyancy weights but I am a few pounds negative with an almost empty 100 with a 5 mil wetsuit and a kydex bp/w and I am tall and slender. My wife is as well with her 80 and she is not as slender as I am. They seem to be around 3 pounds heavier than the claimed weight of the same tanks by faber that are painted.