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Hi folks -

Heading to Grand Cayman on Sunday, planning to be there until Friday, with diving every day. Now TS Ernesto is tracking for the island with expected arrival on Monday or Tuesday. Never had to deal with a TS or hurricane, so should we be really concerned here? Are we going to be hosed on the diving? What's the consensus, and what are the good folks who are actually on the island thinking right now?

Thanks!
 
Huge caveat for everything I am about to say: This is all based on the current track and intensity forecast. Watch the models evolve from now until Sunday, read the forecast discussion for the storm from the NHC, and talk to your dive operator and hotel to see what their plans are. Don't make a decision based on what I am saying, go with your gut.

With all that said...the current forecast is for it to be a minimal Cat 1 hurricane at the time it is nearest the Cayman Islands, and the current track takes it at least a hundred miles south of Grand Cayman. With that as the forecast, I would expect the operator to maybe skip diving on 1 or 2 days at most depending on waves, but I wouldn't expect major disruptions to the island otherwise. If the track and forecast stayed the same and it were my trip, I would go, assuming the hotel and dive operator were ok with me coming.

I have had 3 close calls with hurricanes and diving...one was with a very similar storm that went a few hundred miles south of the Caymans while we were on the Brac. We lost one day of diving while they boarded things up before it became clear the storm was going to miss us. The seas were a bit rough going out the channel for a day or two...but otherwise you would never know we had a hurricane pass nearby...no rain at all. The 2nd was when Cat 5 Hurricane Ivan hit GC the day we were scheduled to fly in on our way to LCBR. It was clear they were going to get slammed, the airline cancelled the flights, and the resort was evacuating. So that was an easy choice we didn't have to make. The 3rd, was Hurricane Wilma in Cozumel. We did exactly what I advised you to do...paid attention to the storm models and guidance. When they were all in agreement that it would go to Cuba as a cat 1 or 2 storm, we got on the plane to go to Cozumel. When we got to Coz, checked in, and checked the weather, it had explosively strengthened to a cat 4 storm and was heading directly at Coz. We got to ride it out at the Casa Mexicana, and the 48 hours while it sat over us were some of the most frightening and miserable times I have ever experienced.

So pay attention to the forecasts, but realize they could be wrong. If your operator says come on down, make sure what their policy is to reimburse you if they turn around and don't go diving for 2-3 days. In the end, it will be your choice...I doubt it will be that bad...but I am only batting .500 against storms where I actually had a choice.
 
We're also feeling the pain. My only dive trip this year (with my new camera!!!) and now it looks very iffy! It's not just Ernesto - the weather in general looks terrible for the week. I actually hope it becomes a hurricane, because our insurance will cover a cancellation. I just can't see getting to Cayman, staying in the room (what else is there to do? go to the movies????), and then flying home after 5 days. Well, I guess after playing chicken with these storms for years, and coming out on top every time - it's time for a fall. (Last summer my dh got stuck in Cayman for 3 extra days, and I got stuck in Disney World for 5 extra days because of Hurricane Irene hitting the northeast.) And I'm obsessed with all the weather websites.

I just need to take a break and walk away from the computer. I hope Ernesto just goes away and leaves us alone!!!!
 
I actually hope it becomes a hurricane, because our insurance will cover a cancellation.

Yep, ours too. But I don't think it will get "called" in time for Sunday. At best, we could hope for a trip interruption, but that would require an official evacuation order.
 
I talked to the hotel and the dive op, and neither person I spoke to sounded like they were too concerned about it. The tracks are mostly quite a bit south of the island, and it's moving fast enough that they don't expect it to hang around much past Monday or Tuesday. On top of that, it's still just a tropical storm with a pretty good chance of turning into nothing much. I feel better about it today than I did last night or early this morning. I guess you never know, but I figure if I can get 3 or 4 days of decent weather out of the 6, and we can get under water those days, we'll be OK.

It's been over 110 for 4 days in a row, and over 100 for longer than that here, so I'm ready to get to some cooler weather.
 
I looked on the United website (in case any of you are flying with them), and it looks like they are willing to be flexible to some degree about flight changes and refunds for flights to GC this weekend. You would still have to reach an accomodation with your dive op and hotel, but if you moved to new dates with them also, they might let you. Not saying not to go...but travel insurance isn't the only option if you decide not to go.

United Airlines - Important notices
 
We perrennially would go to the Caymans every September, so storm watching has been a long habit for us. I just took a look through the Ernesto stuff and as of right now, I'd not be too particularly concerned about it and would assume that the Sunday flights are still going to run. mThe stats right now are saying that there's a ~20% chance of Tropical Storm winds on Monday; given that Grand Cayman will be on the north side of the storm, 7mi beach will be in the lee...might be a blustery day, but you really won't know until 7am on Monday if the boats will/won't go out. If it were me, I'd still be packing and getting ready to go.

The dilemma is that it is human nature to not be able to resist looking at the forecasts every ~6 hours between now and then, and if it takes anything of a northern slant, that will result in a closer approach. Do yourself a favor and work out the local time zone for the weather service updates, then plan to look -- just ONCE per forecast update -- at around 45 minutes after its scheduled update time. Don't lose sleep over this one.

FYI - - and all caveats apply - - it has been my unscientific "gut check" trend analysis (in the weakest sense) that tracks coming in from the ESE like this that have been further north can have their track messed up by the Blue Mountains in Jamaica. Not saying for better or worse, but just that the final track really isn't known until the center has passed by Jamaica...and given that the storms in this region often move along at a nice velocity, there isn't necessarily much time left to react (i.e., evacuate).

In any case, it looks like it is unlikely that this will make it to a CAT 2 over the Caymans, so so long as it doesn't stall out, I'd expect only one day (Monday) to really be at risk of being a blow out. The good news is that a quick-moving storm often acts like a giant vacuum cleaner, leaving great weather behind it...the best UW viz and most glassy seas I've seen in the Caymans in 24 years was two days after Hurricane Lily in 2002...and here's what the day it hit looked like on the Brac:


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(during the eye of Hurricane Lily, Cayman Brac - afternoon of 30 Sept 2002)

And ~40 hours after this photo ... glassy seas with ~200ft viz off the wall.

Finally, don't be too concerned by the huge cloud cover seen on the satellite photos...there's a lot of lousy weather that surrounds a hurricane, but the actual center that has the damaging winds typically isn't all that big - - a storm that passes 150miles away is usually not a problem unless it is a monster CAT 5. You can look on the NOAA website for the "Forecast Advisory" page for a section that looks like this:

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 1003 MB
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 45 KT WITH GUSTS TO 55 KT.
34 KT....... 90NE 60SE 0SW 50NW.
12 FT SEAS..150NE 0SE 0SW 60NW.

WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICALMILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

FORECAST VALID 04/1200Z 14.2N 67.9W
MAX WIND 50 KT...GUSTS 60 KT.
50 KT... 30NE 0SE 0SW 0NW.
34 KT...100NE 60SE 20SW 60NW.

The way to read this is to envision a doughnut on a table that has a big "X" over it. The X represents the four compass quadrants in the above ... NE, SE, SW, and NW. And the numbers written by each of these directions represent the distance out from the center that the effect is present.

For example, the second block above is the forecast for August 4th at 1200 hours ZULU (i.e., Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), which would be IIRC 6AM local time in the Caymans) says that they expect the storm's center to be at 14.2N 67.9W.

Next, the 35KT line says "100NE", which means that Tropical Storm force winds (35 knots) extend out 100 nautical miles to the Northeast (and 60 miles SE, etc). However, the line above this one is "50KT ... 30NE", which means that 50 Knot winds extend out 30 miles in the same direction, which means that from the center to 30 miles is 50 knots and higher, and then from 30 - 100 miles the winds go from 49 knots down to 35 knots. Naturally, there will also be winds beyond 100mi, but these will be less than 35 knots. Ditto for when there's more wind speeds listed, ditto for when wave heights are listed.

For a storm passing south of the location you're tracking, you'll be most interested in what these forecasts are predicting for their two northern sectors (NE, NW); you can also envision this clockface bit to get an idea of what the wind direction will be on a location too...for a track to the south like this, it will probably start with winds from the NE, which will then progress (and strengthen) through ENE, then E, ESE, and then end SE ... as the storm passes by.

Hope this helps,

-hh

PS: just took another look & did a quick calculation...presently, the closest approach to Grand Cayman (19° 18' 36" N / 81° 15' 0" W) looks to be Tuesday's location fix prediction of 17.5N 82.0W ... which is a calculated distance of 216.3 km = 135 miles.​

 
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Well, it's gonna be some crappy diving weather! I'm actually an emergency manager in Florida so we're monitoring the storm pretty carefully.
Monday and Tuesday should be pretty rough. Ernesto will hit hurricane strength probably before Monday. Ernesto will likely track south of the Caymans so the island itself would have too bad a time. The seas will be another story. I would not plan on diving Monday or Tuesday. You'll likely get some impressive winds on the islands. i've ridden out and/or worked quite a few hurricanes including Katrina. This one won't be bad for ya at all. Good day for a cocktail or five.
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Yep, ours too. But I don't think it will get "called" in time for Sunday. At best, we could hope for a trip interruption, but that would require an official evacuation order.
Provisions vary with insurance companies & policies, but since he is already named - yours may pay now. Just have to call and ask. Of course, United is allowing free changes or refunds and hotels should be cooperative.

If you go, then have to evacuate, you can probably claim extra expenses, but probably not get anything back on original expenses since you went. I went to Cozumel thinking that H.Dean would surely veer off, then left 3 days later in retreat, and I lost a lot for not canceling before departure.

It's that time of year. Cape Verde storm Florence will be approaching the Caribbean in a few days.
 

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