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MechDiver once bubbled...


I assume, with your IP setup, the correct tune would be "The Lord's Prayer"?

Personally, I would have charged $75 to screw the thing together for him. But then, I'm mean.

MD

75 dollars better of gotten me setup, tested in the shop, and spend a little time in the pool as well! damn.. =)
 
MechDiver once bubbled...


Personally, I would have charged $75 to screw the thing together for him. But then, I'm mean.

MD

Why would you admit that you would take advantage of the lack of knowledge of new divers by charging outragous prices for simple service?

No doubt his LDS went above and beyond by doing it for free. I could understand a shop charging around $15.00. More in the rare event that something did not come from SP adequately tuned. Then again, maybe his LDS operates as a trusted business and understands that more money can be made satisfing customers than screwing them.
 
awap once bubbled...


Why would you admit that you would take advantage of the lack of knowledge of new divers by charging outragous prices for simple service?

No doubt his LDS went above and beyond by doing it for free. I could understand a shop charging around $15.00. More in the rare event that something did not come from SP adequately tuned. Then again, maybe his LDS operates as a trusted business and understands that more money can be made satisfing customers than screwing them.


Amen brutha! Yah the shop i typically go to is Sport Chalet.. The instructors and sales team there are pretty nice, plus the guy who trained me still works there, so he hooked me up..
 
Many years ago I had a VCR not working very well. You know the repair shop had a minimum service charge of $75.

A few weeks ago I took my car to the dealer because of a problem. They charged me $65 and told me they didn't have any idea what was wrong and for $65/hour they would have their transmission guy look at it.
 
MikeFerrara once bubbled...
Many years ago I had a VCR not working very well. You know the repair shop had a minimum service charge of $75.

A few weeks ago I took my car to the dealer because of a problem. They charged me $65 and told me they didn't have any idea what was wrong and for $65/hour they would have their transmission guy look at it.

So, do you still do business with those guys? Or planning to in the future?
 
MikeFerrara once bubbled...
Many years ago I had a VCR not working very well. You know the repair shop had a minimum service charge of $75.

A few weeks ago I took my car to the dealer because of a problem. They charged me $65 and told me they didn't have any idea what was wrong and for $65/hour they would have their transmission guy look at it.

No one ever said electronic repairs are cheap, but I would never let a dealer nail for $65 just to look at something. I would rather search for an independent mechanic that I can trust. Chances are, that if they have been around for a while and they don't know whats wrong then they know someone who does. I will only take my car to dealer if it is under warranty or as a last resort.

That being said, i was charged $50 to assemble and set up hte Apeks reg that I bought from Dive Inn. I thought that was kind of high, but what is one to do. I would have hope that they would have given me some kind of break on the labor since i did already spend $2000 in their store in the last month or two. Of course they also told me that if had bought my Scuba Pro reg online that the parts kits would run about $60 plus the labor for annual service. That is why I bought it from them. I am really begining to question my decision and since there is another Scuba Pro dealer in town, I am not sure I am going to buy my octo from the same guy.
 
MikeFerrara once bubbled...
Many years ago I had a VCR not working very well. You know the repair shop had a minimum service charge of $75.

A few weeks ago I took my car to the dealer because of a problem. They charged me $65 and told me they didn't have any idea what was wrong and for $65/hour they would have their transmission guy look at it.

Dealers gouge and gouge and gouge....I will NOT take my car to a dealer unless it is under warranty, but since I mainly drive used cars, I don't have one.

Recently my brother had his honda workd on at a dealer. He needed a new rear caliper. The dealer didn't have the part in stock, but several other auto stores did (including another honda dealer). The dealer couldn't put the honda caliper on the honda car. They tried to charge him 350$ to slap new pads on the front calipers and rotate the thire. That was 75 bucks, the other 275 was time they spent dicking with the caliper that they couldn't get working or replaced. He threw them 100 bucks cash, grabbed the key off the desk, and took off. Needless to say he or I will never be going back there. The local mechanic was able to replace the caliper for 83.50.
 
Then find an LDS that you are satisfied with and cultivate that relationship as if your diving depended on it. Because it does. Try to find one that doesn't take unfair advantage of its customer's lack of knowledge

But if you can change your own tire and perform other mechanical chores, you have a choice. Take the next $50.00 you were going to waste at your LDS and buy Oxyhacker's book on regulator maintenance. Here's the link to his site:http://www.airspeedpress.com/
It will take you as far into your regs as you want to go. You won't be paying some gouging LDS a rediculous price to attach a few hoses and chech the system out.

cstreu1026 once bubbled...


That being said, i was charged $50 to assemble and set up hte Apeks reg that I bought from Dive Inn. I thought that was kind of high, but what is one to do. I would have hope that they would have given me some kind of break on the labor since i did already spend $2000 in their store in the last month or two. Of course they also told me that if had bought my Scuba Pro reg online that the parts kits would run about $60 plus the labor for annual service. That is why I bought it from them. I am really begining to question my decision and since there is another Scuba Pro dealer in town, I am not sure I am going to buy my octo from the same guy.
 
I just read this thread and I can't figure out why some think attaching an octo, computer, and lp hose is such a big deal. Regs are checked and setup properly by the manufacturer. All you have to do is take out the plugs in the 1st and screw the dang things in. By all means check those new o-rings for cuts, but once in the pool will most likely reveal any problems and it'll get you some bottom time as well which we all enjoy even if it is only in a pool. Most all newer regs use very close to the same IP range so there won't be that much difference in performance. Rent a tank and jump in the pool... try em out and then see for yourself if anything needs changing/tweaking. You can also see if your hose configuration is optimal and change it if needed. An allen and open end wrench is all you need.

In my opinion, any lds that charges more than $15 to do this is just taking advantage of a diver's lack of knowledge which is a totally corrupt way to do business. Oddly, some people still condone this. I rarely walk into a dive shop where everyone is just busy as they can be. They're usually sitting around and should be glad to help out a diver for free (or even $15) in order to earn themselves a loyal customer. Dive shops still think they have some kind of monopoly and can do as they wish with no consequences. There's always another shop around the corner... but not many shops realize this and because of that, do indeed have a lot of free (no customer) time during their days.
 
awap once bubbled...


Why would you admit that you would take advantage of the lack of knowledge of new divers by charging outragous prices for simple service?

No doubt his LDS went above and beyond by doing it for free. I could understand a shop charging around $15.00. More in the rare event that something did not come from SP adequately tuned. Then again, maybe his LDS operates as a trusted business and understands that more money can be made satisfing customers than screwing them.

It sure is tough to get a point across in this place sometimes. I was being facetious.

That being said, IMO people who know absolutely nothing about life support equipment should not be buying it "with some assembly required" to save a few bucks. If they do, then they should be prepared, and willing, to pay someone to put it together and test it for them. The "$75" was simply the first figure that came to mind.

This is the same as people buying computers (desktops) mailorder and then calling a local shop to tell them how to plug it in. I have no sympathy for either.

Lighten up, geez.

MD
 

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