Educate me please

[Jocull]

Did I say Christmas? I meant Festivus Thank you all for the info. I have not run into a whole lot of Tech divers out here in Hawaii (Oahu) but I imagine they are hiding in the crevices somewhere (pun intended). Sax I appreciate the offer but I think I will hang onto it and keep it in the closet after I have switched out to Miflex. I appreciate all the information and most of the comments

 

[Jim Lapenta]

One question no one has asked is what kind of bc are you using. If it's a basic jacket style the 7 ft hose may be a bit different to work with but it is doable. If you are using a back inflate then it should be easier. I use a regular length in the pool only. When doing OW checkouts or any recreational dive I use the long hose. It like a BPW is not a technical hose. It is a hose. it is worn differently but it is just a hose. It allows one to do an air share with the primary that is in your mouth. The alternate is bungeed under your chin where it is easy to find and not full of crap from dragging in the muck. The long hose allows a much more relaxed air share and swim to the surface. It is very streamlined when properly stowed and much more comfortable than a standard set up for me.

 

[Jocull]

Read this SB thread. It should answer many of your questions.

Thanks for the thread. It helped not only with the explanation (much like some of you did) but there was a pretty picture explaining the nice 7' noose er I mean hose.

One question no one has asked is what kind of bc are you using. If it's a basic jacket style the 7 ft hose may be a bit different to work with but it is doable. If you are using a back inflate then it should be easier. I use a regular length in the pool only. When doing OW checkouts or any recreational dive I use the long hose. It like a BPW is not a technical hose. It is a hose. it is worn differently but it is just a hose. It allows one to do an air share with the primary that is in your mouth. The alternate is bungeed under your chin where it is easy to find and not full of crap from dragging in the muck. The long hose allows a much more relaxed air share and swim to the surface. It is very streamlined when properly stowed and much more comfortable than a standard set up for me.

I am currently using an OMS 60 lb with SS BP w/STA all mated to an OMS IQ harness.

 

[Token]

So....would this be a recommended setup for every diver? I'm planning a new reg setup for cold(er) water diving [ie. 40's F]...probably with an Aeris Ion. Should I go straight ahead into a long hose second stage and bungeed octo? It sure seems like a good idea...

 

[tstormdiver]

So....would this be a recommended setup for every diver? I'm planning a new reg setup for cold(er) water diving [ie. 40's F]...probably with an Aeris Ion. Should I go straight ahead into a long hose second stage and bungeed octo? It sure seems like a good idea...

You can go to a long hose & bungee'd secondary, if you'd like. If you are not planning on doing overhead environment (cave/ wreck or such), you might want to use a 5' hose instead. Just not so much extra hose to have to deal with, but plenty of extra hose for an air share. If you do plan on overhead environment, then go ahead to the 7' hose. Practice deploying it (either size) & taking your secondary, to get used to it

 

[aquaregia]

I'm a purely recreational diver at this point, and I love my longhose and bungeed backup.

 

[tbone1004]

we teach this setup to our basic students, no "long" hose but they have a longer hose on their primary to donate with a suicide strap on their octo

I don't dive a long hose unless I know I'm going to be doing any sort of deco, or in overhead, just a hassle for me, I get flamed for it every time I say that, but I think they're an almighty pain to deal unless you have a need for one. The dives that I do without one usually involve people that I wouldn't want to give a long hose to and if something happens I want a death grip on their harness so they don't go do something stupid. Not having a long hose forces them to stay close for ascent. Caving is a different story same with deep wrecks, those all get long hoses

 

[tstormdiver]

I'm a purely recreational diver at this point, and I love my longhose and bungeed backup.

When I'm teaching students I use a shorter hose for 2 reasons 1. it can be a pain to get a long hose around a snorkel & 2. by using a shorter hose (36"), it helps to prevent any possible confusion to the students. When I vacation dive, I use a 5' hose & when I am doing technical diving I use the 7' hose. In all configurations my secondary is on a bungee necklace.

 

[tstormdiver]

I don't dive a long hose unless I know I'm going to be doing any sort of deco, or in overhead, just a hassle for me, I get flamed for it every time I say that, but I think they're an almighty pain to deal unless you have a need for one. The dives that I do without one usually involve people that I wouldn't want to give a long hose to and if something happens I want a death grip on their harness so they don't go do something stupid. Not having a long hose forces them to stay close for ascent. Caving is a different story same with deep wrecks, those all get long hoses

No flaming here. When it comes to gear,....to each their own & use what works best for you & your dives.:blinking:

 

[tbone1004]

wish that was true most places...

Always a bungeed octo though. BUT there is a caveat to that. If you do have a communicable disease, either temporarily or permanently you should alter your rig to donate your octo. Especially if your dive buddies aren't aware of this. We had a guy in my rescue class who was a germophobe and we did that for him. In this case I left the long hose in the suicide strap, had my octo on a 90* adapter and ran the octo under the long hose so I could donate the long hose without breathing off of it. Similar stuff was done with people when they had various bugs that could be spread by sharing the same mouthpiece; coldsores and the like, or anything serious and permanent...
Moral of this is know your buddies