Eco Explorer Runs Aground On Tubbataha

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divefoxx:
Broken equipment? I think we can send this story straight to fairy tale land. What a crap.

I respect the fact that others on this board have different views on the grounding. I certainly would not insult them or call anything they have to say "crap". Despite divefoxx's assertions, not one, but two tow ropes broke. Furthermore, one of the Stella Maris' guests did have her dive gear destroyed when the first tow rope broke and swept across the dive deck. When the second tow rope broke, it did not fall harmlessly into the water, but whipped so loudly against the stern decks of the Oceanic Explorer that we could hear it on the Stella Maris Explorer over fifty meters away. Everyone I was with at the time was shocked to hear that people on the Oceanic Explorer were NOT injured.

Though I can't speak to divefoxx's own experience, all of the guests on the Eco Explorer that I talked to stated that no alarm bells went off at the time of the collision and that the crew did not alert those passengers who were sleeping. They also informed me that the ship was moving at high speed when it went aground. If it was moving at only 3-5 knots, as divefoxx claims, I doubt that it could have slid so completely onto the reef that it could not have been pulled off at high tide, with the assistance of two other ships of comperable size and after having dumped nearly 30 tons of water from its hold. Perhaps I am missing something.

While the crew of the Stella Maris Explorer did do everything they could to make the trip enjoyable, the Stella Maris' captain was negligent in the way that he handled the salvage operation. First, as I noted in my original post, had it not been for the actions of one of the ship's guests, the Stella Maris itself would have run aground. Second, in what I can only describe as a scene from a bad comedy, at one point the captains of the Oceanic Explorer and the Stella Maris Explorer decided to line their ships up to pull on the Eco Explorer in single file, separated by no more than 10 meters from bow to stern. Had the Ocenaic Explorer's tow rope broken at that point instead of shortly later, that ship would have rammed at full power into the stern of the Stella Maris Explorer. I can't even imagine the damage it might have caused.

I agree with dive addict that the boat crews did their best to make guests feel as comfortable as possible after the incident. However, I cannot say the same thing of either the Stella Maris' captain or its head divemaster, Allen. While the inconvenience to guests on the Stella Maris Explorer pales in comparison to those on the Eco Explorer, the experience was far from pleasant. Overcrowding, oil and diesel smoke billowing onto the decks and into the cabins (as the Stella Maris ran its engines at full power while trying to tow the Eco Explorer off of the reef), and a day spent diving the mediocre, no-name sites near the Eco Explorer (instead of the better sites we were supposed to dive that day at the northern end of Tubbataha South), are just a few.

Despite the above, neither the captain nor Allen ever apologized for the incident. The latter even got angry when I and another guest insisted on doing all of the dives we had paid for on the last day of our trip! Purely out of spite, Allen then limited our dives that day to a maximum depth of 20 meters and a maximum bottom time of 35 minutes, despite the fact that we had paid extra to dive Nitrox. To cap it all off, after my group saw a manta ray at the end of our first dive on the last day and I signaled to the others that I was going to stay down a few minutes longer to take pictures, Allen later berated me in public for "disobeying my divemaster" and threatened to ground me for the next dive! I flew halfway around the world to dive with a manta ray, not to be scolded like a child.

I have written these posts as a service to other divers on this board, to alert them to what I consider a dangerous operation. I have also written them in response to what I see as a suspicious lack of attention paid to this matter by the Philippine media. To clarify, I am not interested in compensation from Cruise Island Adventure / Scuba World. What's done is done. Though divefoxx may think that Cruise Island Adventure / Scuba World were generous in offering free return trips to Eco Explorer passengers, had I been on that ship I would have turned them down cold. Why would anyone who went through an ordeal like that want to repeat the experience with the same operator who put them in danger in the first place?

The fact remains that the owners and captain of the Eco Explorer ran their ship aground in a UNESCO World Heritage Site. The fact also remains that this is the third ship in the Explorer fleet to have been involved in such an accident. Setting aside divergant views on the details, the above speak for themselves. The Eco Explorer did not graze the reef, it ran straight into it. This is the very definition of negligence. The fact that this is also part of a pattern of behavior by Curise Island Adventure / Scuba World, indicates that those entities are also negligent in hiring incompetent captains for their ships.
 
basing on the info here.

the towing operation was INCOMPETENTLY DONE !

THe towing should have been done properly by a TUG BOAT and not a passenger ship WITH GUESTS !!!!

i say all those on the three vessels should take action for compromising their safety. so others in the future may not be in similar situation.

THERE ARE PROPER PROCEDURES, and yes the Captain of the ship that got stuck should be reprimanded and given an exam again from the start.

INCOMPETENCE. you can not have such when you are carrying a boat load of passengers. i bet the captain was not on deck when it ran aground.


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I personally think that "bayanihan" is not a good excuse to use two boats loaded with guests in a salvage operation.
 
The fact remains that the owners and captain of the Eco Explorer ran their ship aground in a UNESCO World Heritage Site. The fact also remains that this is the third ship in the Explorer fleet to have been involved in such an accident. Setting aside divergant views on the details, the above speak for themselves. The Eco Explorer did not graze the reef, it ran straight into it. This is the very definition of negligence. The fact that this is also part of a pattern of behavior by Curise Island Adventure / Scuba World, indicates that those entities are also negligent in hiring incompetent captains for their ships.[/QUOTE]

This is the issue here. Thankfully, there was no loss of life but now this accident moves into a new phase where the courts will have to decide who was at fault for this mishap.
 
Axua:
I personally think that "bayanihan" is not a good excuse to use two boats loaded with guests in a salvage operation.
it could have been a desperate attempt to "conceal" the incident. Two SW ships (read: not salvage ships or equip to salvage ships) were on the spot the following morning to extract the eco ship from the reef. The guests became mere spectators to the unusual salvage operation.
 
Matthew:
Is that Gat Velasco? He's a very good friend, please say hi for me when you meet him.:wink:

hi matthew, yup its Gat. ill tell him you said hello.
 
nga pala, on the issue, actually 2 ropes broke. the first one got broken at stella's side, and the 2nd one that was connected to Oceanic got broken at Eco's side. So the rope did fall helplessly to the water and ppl from Oceanic didnt get injured.

I guess what i can see here is lack of communication from the Stella captain and manager to their passengers. On Oceanic, the captain and the manager profusely apologized and answered the questions and concerns of the passengers with patience, providing complete information and reassurance. So ppl in Oceanic were generally OK about the whole salvage operation. We knew we were safe since we were assured that they were not going to try something so dangerous and drastic that it would endanger any passenger. I mean....why would they do that after the Eco incident? I'm sure they wouldnt want to be accountable for more lives.

There is a reason why they attempted to rescue the 3rd boat. The crew informed us that Eco wasnt damaged at all, and if they can pull it out, the trip can continue as planned. They didnt want to hassle the other guests by overcrowding the 2 other boats. Even the safety of Eco was reassured by a guest who was a captain of another ship. When it happened, he immediately went to the engine room and checked the ship, and he concluded that the ship was safe. So it was no emergency situation where ppl needed to be evacuated by helicopters...and it wasnt a cover up attempt either. Guys...the person in charge of Tubbataha conservation , Angelique i think? was there, even the rangers were there. Its not a secret that a part of the reef was hit,and it did make the newspapers.Why isnt it in the front page i dont know, ask the journalists, they have their way of prioritizing stories. If SW paid off anyone, it wouldnt even make it to the papers.

All that being said, SW definitely cannot escape the fines, penalties,bad media, bad experiences and reviews. Every person has its own opinion, that is what forums are for , to express opinions. For me, i just wanted the situation not to be exaggerated. From people aboard Oceanic explorer, we were fine. we were all happy, we were especially happy about how Rommel our boat manager handled the situation and how he communicated everything to us.

Manhattan diver, maybe you should go to SW and directly feedback your concerns on Stellas captain and on Allen. I think we can safely say we had very different experiences from people working in the same company.

if you ask me, i'll gladly go on any of Scuba Worlds boats and trips any time. I think their people are great, and that the incident was not as bad as it seems to be from a human perspective, from the reef perspective its terrible!! but as i mentioned before, who wants to destroy a reef??? It was an accident, SW should definitely be accountable. But let's be logical and assess the risks in a realistic manner.
 
eco :
They didnt want to hassle the other guests by overcrowding the 2 other boats. .


ah i see. that's why they didn'y call a TUG BOAT that does those jobs SAFELY. so they won't inconvenience the guests on the two boats...... ahhhh

did i miss something here or the two other boats were scheduled to pull the eco off the reef......


so now, THREE BOATS WERE INCONVENIENCED ..... ah i see the logic there.....

how stupid of me........

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paolov:
ah i see. that's why they didn'y call a TUG BOAT that does those jobs SAFELY. so they won't inconvenience the guests on the two boats...... ahhhh

did i miss something here or the two other boats were scheduled to pull the eco off the reef......


so now, THREE BOATS WERE INCONVENIENCED ..... ah i see the logic there.....

how stupid of me........

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and since there were no holes in the ship it can safely sail again...

Only in the Philippines...bahala na...
 
They did call a tug boat....the bottom line is hindi nila gagawin yun kung talagang delikado. At nandun kami at para sa akin, hindi sya delikado. Who would be in the the best position to assess the risk? the captain, crew, manager...experienced people who have been doing tubbataha trips longer than anybody, ppl with experience on situations like these. Would you trust their judgement? I would. Maybe you wouldn't. But i don't think its fair to judge the situation when you weren't even there.

given there are conflicting thoughts...so i'll leave it at that.



I dont think
 

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