Question DSMB + Spool Bolted to Backplate hole

[johndiver999]

NO, bad idea using those clips attached to a the back plate. Those types of clips will clip themselves to loose line by themselves, tying you up - probably from behind where you will have to take your tank off to fix.

 

[Wibble]

Hi, I'm new forgive me if this isn't the right thread for this question, but it's about boltsnap alternatives for SMB reels. To prevent the issue that @Wibble pointed out, a moving reel depressing the boltsnap gate, why not use a double snaphook like pictured below?

I'm thinking of leaving my reel attached to the SMB D-ring, then also attaching one end of the double snaphook to the SMB D-Ring, and the other end to a hole in the reel to keep it from unraveling while in my BCD pocket. For deployment, you pull the kit from pocket, unclip the double snaphook from the SMB, and you should be ready to inflate and shoot your SMB. If you wanted to could leave the other end of the double snaphook attached to the reel for when you wanted to lock it at 5m for a safety stop, or unhook it until that point. Is there a reason why people aren't using clips like this instead of bolt snaps that have that vulnerability with the reel? Also, I prefer a quick launch set up with the reel already attached to the SMB. I know XS makes one out of the box, but I'm looking for a 4.5 ft length and I like the oral inflator valve that doesn't have to be depressed on the Subgravity Deluxe. Thanks.
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As @johndiver999 said, those clips will catch other things in them -- or could release a line if it bounced and wrapped through.

Possibly a climbing style carabiner with a locking gate would work. Issue is that seawater can contain "crap" which would gunge up the mechanism -- salt for example!

 

[ImpotentSeaSnake]

Hi there,
I’m playing around with my first backplate and harness, and came to the following set up for DSMB and Spool (direct bolt snap to the backplate)
I know it has been discussed, that the twisting can open the bolt snap by accident.
Nonetheless, I do not see that risk in this set up (bolt snap fits quite snug and does not seem able to turn and twist “on itself”)

I find it very easy to find the corner of the back plate and bolting and unbolting the double ender.

Any additional remarks/concerns you might see (apart from the, in my opinion, minimal Christmas tree dangling).

I attached a couple of pictures on how I set up the whole story (tip of the cable tie is only there to loop it easier through the hole)
Thanks!
Daniel

Curious what brand of SMB is that?

 

[ImpotentSeaSnake]

As @johndiver999 said, those clips will catch other things in them -- or could release a line if it bounced and wrapped through.

Possibly a climbing style carabiner with a locking gate would work. Issue is that seawater can contain "crap" which would gunge up the mechanism -- salt for example!

What do you think these slidelock carabiners? I'd have the reel attached to the SMB in my BCD or cargo pocket so it shouldn't get a ton of movement. Maybe I'm trying to solve a problem I don't really have. The real question is what is the best way to stow an attached reel and SMB in a pocket so it doesn't unravel yet, can be deployed quickly?

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[Chrisk919]

I used to put it on the butt D ring but now I have 2 bungees on the side of the back plate and use them to secure the DSMB

That’s been my go-to method as well, two bungees through bolt holes, holding the DSMB in place (along with a boltsnap to the lower bungee in case I fumble it or it comes loose.)

 

[Wibble]

I stash my spare SMB and "emergency" marker SMB (little yellow SMB) rolled up and in my pockets. They're attached to the bungee loop in the pockets so I can pull everything out if necessary and not leave a gift for Neptune's Locker.

The backup SMB is a big Halcyon bag, rolled up so the inflation spigot is on the outside (meaning the SMB bag is rolled thin) and it's permanently attached to a 60m/200ft Apeks spool. Both are clipped to a bungee loop in the pocket.

My main SMB is on a large 100m/330ft Kent Tooling reel and clipped to my waist belt D-ring on the RHS. This dangles beside me if I have only one bailout cylinder, or sits on top of the cylinder if I have one on that side.

 

[hammet]

Carabineers=instant death.
They teach this in open water 101 bruh.

 

[flymolo]

No need to reinvent the wheel just get some pockets. They can hold other stuff too.

 

[Wibble]

Carabineers=instant death.
They teach this in open water 101 bruh.

Suicide clips; small snap carabiner clips that can be very difficult to undo but are snag risks for lines, etc. when they get caught in the gate.

A locking carabiner will not open until unlocked.
OK, it's a bit specialist but can be very useful in some circumstances.

 

[hammet]

Suicide clips; small snap carabiner clips that can be very difficult to undo but are snag risks for lines, etc. when they get caught in the gate.
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A locking carabiner will not open until unlocked.
OK, it's a bit specialist but can be very useful in some circumstances.
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