Question Drysuit temperature and time limits in 13C and 24C water

[noserider]

Kwark Navy are great undersuits. Not heated though.

Kwark Navy undergarment?

I've searched (SB and the Google). I've found a couple of posts about Kwark Navy undersuits. Can anybody share any more thoughts on them than the 1 or 2 posts I have found so far? I am currently diving a Fourth Element Arctic 2 piece under my shell suit. I am interested in getting a 1 piece...

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they are very toppy price wise

 

[Pepman]

Anyone here yet? I am a just one hour diver thinking in moving to a trilaminate with a couple of doubts:
1- Are baselayers 100% necessary?
2- For 1 hour dives at 12-14 ºC, what kind of undergarment do you think it would be more or less OK? Less bulkier the better though.

Thanks in advance

 

[grantctobin]

Anyone here yet? I am a just one hour diver thinking in moving to a trilaminate with a couple of doubts:
1- Are baselayers 100% necessary?
2- For 1 hour dives at 12-14 ºC, what kind of undergarment do you think it would be more or less OK? Less bulkier the better though.

Thanks in advance

1) Yes, though recreational wicking base layers will likely suit you appropriately for that duration. Merino = <3
2) there are too many variables for a simple answer. Body fat, adaptation (or lack thereof) of brown fat, diet that day, whether your base layer has wicked you appropriately, etc all play a role. Literally, air space = loft = warmth. There isn’t a magical material that gives you expedition puffer style warmth the thickness of a t shirt.

In your conditions, I’d wear a FE Halo over some 200g merino, others likely an FE Arctic. Some of the Weezle offerings are budget priced but have fallen out of favor.

 

[Subcooled]

Anyone here yet? I am a just one hour diver thinking in moving to a trilaminate with a couple of doubts:
1- Are baselayers 100% necessary?
2- For 1 hour dives at 12-14 ºC, what kind of undergarment do you think it would be more or less OK? Less bulkier the better though.

Thanks in advance

A trilaminate drysuit will not keep you warm. You need to wear warm clothes (including warm socks) underneath. Pick your favorite. There may be many options to choose from at a diveshop but you could also just use plain old-fashion wool and test if it works for you. There will be some condensation unless you dive in cold weather, so you'll not end the dive 100% dry.

 

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[Pepman]

1) Yes, though recreational wicking base layers will likely suit you appropriately for that duration. Merino = <3
2) there are too many variables for a simple answer. Body fat, adaptation (or lack thereof) of brown fat, diet that day, whether your base layer has wicked you appropriately, etc all play a role. Literally, air space = loft = warmth. There isn’t a magical material that gives you expedition puffer style warmth the thickness of a t shirt.

In your conditions, I’d wear a FE Halo over some 200g merino, others likely an FE Arctic. Some of the Weezle offerings are budget priced but have fallen out of favor.

Thanks for the answer. I will take it into account.

 

[Pepman]

A trilaminate drysuit will not keep you warm. You need to wear warm clothes (including warm socks) underneath. Pick your favorite. There may be many options to choose from at a diveshop but you could also just use plain old-fashion wool and test if it works for you. There will be some condensation unless you dive in cold weather, so you'll not end the dive 100% dry.

Thanks for the answer. I know you should wear something under the drysuit, but my question was more about the need of wearing a baselayer UNDER a warm undergarment such as Kwark Navy or so.

 

[Alekseolsen]

Thanks for the answer. I know you should wear something under the drysuit, but my question was more about the need of wearing a baselayer UNDER a warm undergarment such as Kwark Navy or so.

I would at the very least wear something to "pick up" the sweat, as it's a lot easier to wash the baselayer than your Kwark.

 

[Subcooled]

Thanks for the answer. I know you should wear something under the drysuit, but my question was more about the need of wearing a baselayer UNDER a warm undergarment such as Kwark Navy or so.

I have mostly used a moisture wicking base layer for comfort but some times, when I feel lazy, and the water is a bit warmer, I have used just a t-shirt and underpants. In very cold water and for extended exposure I'd replace the moisture wicking base layer with merino wool.

Washing just the baselayer is easier in the long run than washing your Kwark Navy Overall...

 

[Pepman]

Thanks all!