The hose routing is correct for DIR, if you went the hogarthian way you need to switch the inflator hoses IE wing inflator comes from the left post. If the wing comes off the left post then if you are diving dry the drysuit gets the right post.
Doubles Hose Routing
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I am always setting up the hose routing on the 1st picture (an inflator under the hose). There is no reason to give any stress on the hose and hanging an inflator over the hose....
And, I don't put the inflator hose and drysuit hose on the same stage because either one should be secured for the emergency purpose...
IMHO though....
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Michael Schlink:
I'm not at all sure what you mean, but one would certainly prefer having the drysuit off the left post since you want the hose under your left arm. Then the wing should of course be served from the right post.
If you want to set up your hose routing by DIR then the wing inflator hose comes from the right post and then the drysuit comes off the left post. As pictured in the previous post.
If you want to set up Hogarthian then your wing inflator comes off the left post, SO then you need to have the drysuit inflator come off the right post as you wouldn't have both inflators on the same post!
If you want to set up Hogarthian then your wing inflator comes off the left post, SO then you need to have the drysuit inflator come off the right post as you wouldn't have both inflators on the same post!
If you run your long hose and drysuit inflator hose off the right side then your inflator hose will go under your right arm, this eliminates your inflator hose crossing your long hose as it does coming from your left post. You can then tilt your right 1st stage and eliminate some of the hose bending because they both go in the same direction.
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OneBrightGator:
the wing inflator doesn't cross the long hose though?! the long hose goes to the right while the inflator to the left -- no cross there (unless I am not fully understanding what you are saying)
the one advantage is that you will not have that x-cross in the back with the wing inflator and the secondary, so one less hose tangle.
the reason I like the above routing is (minus the x-cross) because if you run your ds inflator and the long hose from the same right post then you will way to many hoses on that side already while nothing on the other...so buy running the ds inflator off the left post, you split up the hoses -- on the right side of the body, you have long hose, secondary on the left you have the ds inflator and the spg while the wing inflator runs behind the neck
I meant they cross in front of your body as your drysuit inflator hose is getting close to your drysuit inflator and your long hose is going up and across your body, but in retrospect, that depends on where your drysuit inflator is on your suit and such.
With the "DIR" routing you have your drysuit inflator and SPG hoses running down in similar fashion and your backup and wing inflator hoses crossing behind your head and the LP hoses on each reg going in opposite directions.
With the "Hogarthian" routing you have your long hose and drysuit inflator running down in similar fashion, backup going behind your head, wing inflator going right over your shoulder and the long hose and drysuit inflator hose going in the same direction off the right post.
It really comes down to how you want to find out about a rolloff (more of an issue diving wet) and how you want your hoses to bend. Either way is cool, whatever you want.
With the "DIR" routing you have your drysuit inflator and SPG hoses running down in similar fashion and your backup and wing inflator hoses crossing behind your head and the LP hoses on each reg going in opposite directions.
With the "Hogarthian" routing you have your long hose and drysuit inflator running down in similar fashion, backup going behind your head, wing inflator going right over your shoulder and the long hose and drysuit inflator hose going in the same direction off the right post.
It really comes down to how you want to find out about a rolloff (more of an issue diving wet) and how you want your hoses to bend. Either way is cool, whatever you want.
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KOMPRESSOR:
Yes, I was refering to diving wet.
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Michael Schlink:
And how would you then go about it if you have an uncontrolled blow-up of your wing and need to dump air AND turn off the connected post at the same time, when they are on the same side?
As I learned in the pool today, I would very much like to be able to do both at the same time. Which means pulling the dump valve with my left hand and turning of the RIGHT post with my right hand. See the picture? I'm pretty new to doubles, but I figured out that much when an exprienced tech diver decided to give me a lesson in our local swimming pool the other day and started filling my wing without me noticing it. (Yes, I wear my drysuit even when practicing in the pool!)
I sure didn't know "Hogarthian" meant doing anything different than what DIR divers do when setting up one's gear. Why?
Hogarthian doesn't really have much to do with what DIR does or doesn't do, it's based on a principal created (or made popular, whatever) by a cave diver by the name of William Hogarth Main. The drysuit-right, inflator-left is the way he routes his hoses, so...
If we're going to nit-pick, I'd rather turn off the post I'm not breathing off of, even if that means dumping with my right hand and closing the valve with my left hand, but honestly, if you're diving doubles you should be comfortable either way.
For me, cave diving, I would rather find a rolled off left post through my inflator (I dive wet mostly, so no drysuit indicator), then my backup reg as I try to breathe off of it while I'm handing my primary over to my out-of-air buddy, but in reality you should find a rolloff by checking your valves after going through anything that might have turned them off, so who knows?
If we're going to nit-pick, I'd rather turn off the post I'm not breathing off of, even if that means dumping with my right hand and closing the valve with my left hand, but honestly, if you're diving doubles you should be comfortable either way.
For me, cave diving, I would rather find a rolled off left post through my inflator (I dive wet mostly, so no drysuit indicator), then my backup reg as I try to breathe off of it while I'm handing my primary over to my out-of-air buddy, but in reality you should find a rolloff by checking your valves after going through anything that might have turned them off, so who knows?
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