Do you use reg. necklace for your primary?

[BORG]

I have noticed more divers are borrowing another safety tip from tech divers and using necklaces to keep the alternate reg. close by. Does anyone use the necklaces just for their primary? So if they are on the surface and want to let the primary out of their mouth to talk or something else the primary is right there at their mouth to be quickly and easily put back in.

Just wanted to see what others may think or be doing.

Thanks.

 

[ianr33]

No.

How would you donate it if it is on a necklace? Or what would happen when a panicking diver grabs it?

 

[battles2a5]

I don't think you'll see many people doing this. You should be donating your primary air source since you know the reg is working. The back-up is bungeed so it is always right where it is suppose to be and you can very quickly switch to it. If you bungee your primary, you would have to have some other way of stowing the backup and long hose; many of which have proven to be sub-optimal. Practically all technical diving agencies have adopted the long hose primary/ bungeed back-up as a standard.

But too your point, I have seen a lot of people trying to bungee a reg on a recreational configuration which I think is a horrible idea. I saw a guy using his short hose primary and he had his octopus bungeed. ***? The octo is meant to be donated (hence the longer hose length), why on earth would you bungee that? Was he going to donate his primary on the short hose and switch to his back-up? Had he even thought about it? Probably not, but he sure looked cool w/ a bungeed reg. Thank god it was with one of thse jelly necklace things so it would be easy to yank out if someone needed.

 

[jimdiverman]

I have noticed more divers are borrowing another safety tip from tech divers and using necklaces to keep the alternate reg. close by. Does anyone use the necklaces just for their primary? So if they are on the surface and want to let the primary out of their mouth to talk or something else the primary is right there at their mouth to be quickly and easily put back in.

Just wanted to see what others may think or be doing.

Thanks.

I have a bolt snap on my long hose that I can clip off to a D ring if I am on the backup regulator, but ordinarily, the long hose is routed around my neck and I am using it.

If you had two necklaces, how would you know which regulator was the primary and which was the backup, and in what order are they on your head? In an emergency, its best to not have to think about these things, but be able to react to muscle memory from your routine and training.

Best to keep one necklace with your backup regulator on it, and wrap the long hose over the necklace so it can be quickly donated.

 

[redacted]

I have one rig that I use only for solo diving in a shallow river where I eliminated the octo all together. After falling in shallow rapids and having difficulty retrieving either my balance or my primary, I added a somewhat longer than normal bungee. It was a bit of a challenge trying to reclaim a wayward primary as the current is tumbling you along in only 3 feet of water.

 

[lowviz]

So if they are on the surface and want to let the primary out of their mouth to talk or something else the primary is right there at their mouth to be quickly and easily put back in.

First, I'm not Tech, but borrow their ideas freely. I started out exactly the way you suggest using a 5' backup. Wrong length -too akward. Then went to a 7' backup tucked into my waistband, better, but not ideal. Finally switched to a yellow 7' primary (tucked into waistband then up across chest and half circle around back of neck) with a 45 degree swivel at the mouthpiece end and a necklaced short-hose secondary. At this point, I quit making changes. Tip from somewhere I have since forgotten: Never put a full loop of anything around your neck or clip anything across your chest (other than the chest strap). Frequently practice going to your backup without using your hands. Speaking to your concern about losing the reg: Seven feet of yellow hose is hard to lose and your backup is right there if you have to fuss with the LH. When you share, don't give up possession of the long hose, you could end up seven feet below someone sprinting to the surface. I use yellow because OOA divers tend to crave yellow, the rest of me is black.

Keep thinking and use what works for you. I know divers that use a necklaced primary and bungee a 7' backup to one of their tanks. Just leave the bungee ends long enough to grab easily so you can re-stow the LH.

 

[Scared Silly]

But too your point, I have seen a lot of people trying to bungee a reg on a recreational configuration which I think is a horrible idea. I saw a guy using his short hose primary and he had his octopus bungeed. ***? The octo is meant to be donated (hence the longer hose length), why on earth would you bungee that? Was he going to donate his primary on the short hose and switch to his back-up? Had he even thought about it? Probably not, but he sure looked cool w/ a bungeed reg. Thank god it was with one of thse jelly necklace things so it would be easy to yank out if someone needed.

Funny, I got a friend who was very new to diving set up and swapped his hoses (octo 32" hose and primary on a 40" hose) so he could bunge his octo. He got it backwards and bungied his primary and then bought a keeper for his octo. When he came back from his first trip he asked me about it again because the DM wondered about his set up. When I saw it and re-explained the idea he said oh that makes a lot more sense. Of course now he dives a 7' hose.

 

[scubafanatic]

I don't think you'll see many people doing this. You should be donating your primary air source since you know the reg is working. The back-up is bungeed so it is always right where it is suppose to be and you can very quickly switch to it. If you bungee your primary, you would have to have some other way of stowing the backup and long hose; many of which have proven to be sub-optimal. Practically all technical diving agencies have adopted the long hose primary/ bungeed back-up as a standard.

But too your point, I have seen a lot of people trying to bungee a reg on a recreational configuration which I think is a horrible idea. I saw a guy using his short hose primary and he had his octopus bungeed. ***? The octo is meant to be donated (hence the longer hose length), why on earth would you bungee that? Was he going to donate his primary on the short hose and switch to his back-up? Had he even thought about it? Probably not, but he sure looked cool w/ a bungeed reg. Thank god it was with one of thse jelly necklace things so it would be easy to yank out if someone needed.

Hi,

...well, I'm one of those 'crazies' that 'bungies' the octo, my recreational rigs use a 3' primary hose/Seacure...and my bungied octo's are 4' Apeks Egress (flat/puck omni-directional 2nd-stages). I dive this way as I use a full size Seacure that I rather doubt some divers would appreciate, so I don't 'plan' to donate that one.....the omni-directional octo on the 4' hose simply pops-out of the Manta-bungie for easy deployment. Yeah, I know, this sounds '*ss-backwards' to the DIR crowd...but I'm not giving up my Seacure so this was my solution.

...by the way, I'm very well familiar with DIR......I've got 4 sets of Poseidon Jetstreams with 5' and 7' primary hoses.....have 2 twinsets and nearly a dozen assorted large single 'steels'....dive with Cochran tech/deco computers....use a Deepoutdoors harness/dual bladder 57 lb Oxycheq wing....so I know all about the 'proper' DIR methods....so I'm not a clueless newbie.

Karl

 

[BORG]

OK I get the point, BAD POST!

 

[lowviz]

OK I get the point, BAD POST!

How so? You asked a question that has more than one reasonable answer, pick one that suits you.