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I'm not sure I see what was wrong about throwing your gear in the water and putting it on there. If the water was reasonably calm and there was no current, why not? Sounds like good thinking and a good solution to the issue involved, to me.
 
Had he failed to inflate, and his gear shot to the bottom, then maybe I can see a problem, but otherwise, I agree - what was the issue with gearing up in water?

- Tim
 
Had he failed to inflate, and his gear shot to the bottom, then maybe I can see a problem, but otherwise, I agree - what was the issue with gearing up in water?

- Tim
It was bad form in that the normal checks ets weren't done. -Had it been with a bunch of experienced divers I agree but these were freshly minted divers doing all the checks "by the book". Check your gear-check your buddies ger etc. Me throwing my tank/bc/octi over the side then rolling in with my fins/mask in my hands really wasn't "the padi way"
 
It was bad form in that the normal checks ets weren't done. -Had it been with a bunch of experienced divers I agree but these were freshly minted divers doing all the checks "by the book". Check your gear-check your buddies ger etc. Me throwing my tank/bc/octi over the side then rolling in with my fins/mask in my hands really wasn't "the padi way"
I've been wondering, based on little hints here and there in your posts, whether you were on this dive in a professional capacity. If so, I am of the opinion that it was better for you to be in the water waiting before the others started dropping in. That way you were present to help deal with any issues that might have arisen. Also, we do teach people how to don their gear in the water, and in fact it's a preferred method for certain situations. I don't believe there's anything non-standard (what I'm guessing you mean when you say "not the PADI way") in regard to dropping your BCD in the water, entering, and then gearing up.
 
It was bad form in that the normal checks ets weren't done. -Had it been with a bunch of experienced divers I agree but these were freshly minted divers doing all the checks "by the book". Check your gear-check your buddies ger etc. Me throwing my tank/bc/octi over the side then rolling in with my fins/mask in my hands really wasn't "the padi way"

On the other hand, in some places that's how you'll gear up. On a trip to Bali several years ago, they took us to the dive site in this boat that looked like a long canoe with a little outboard motor on it. There wasn't room in the boat to gear up, so we all just tossed our gear overboard and got into it in the water ... exactly as you did. To get back on board after the dive we took off our gear and used the outboard motor as a ladder.

Training doesn't cover all possibilities ... and your post is a valid example of that ... which fits nicely with the intent of this thread ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
... and what should you do when your gauges are on your wrists, your octo is bungeed around your neck, you're not wearing a weightbelt, and your snorkel's stowed in your gear bag?

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

I'd be trying to figure out who the gear belonged to and why I was wearing it. In my youth stranger things have happened but not so much in decades.



Bob
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I have no knowledge of, nor would I discuss if I did have any knowledge of any such event, if it did in fact occur.
 
. Me throwing my tank/bc/octi over the side then rolling in with my fins/mask in my hands really wasn't "the padi way"

Why mention PADI? They have no official position on this; there is no official PADI way to put on gear. As a PADI instructor, I have no problem with this. In my instruction, when we talk about the ways you can enter the water and put on your gear, there are many ways to do it, and you have to make a decision (oftentimes using your imagination) to determine what is best. If you had taken your isntruction from me, the way you did it would have been the PADI way.
 
Why mention PADI? They have no official position on this; there is no official PADI way to put on gear. As a PADI instructor, I have no problem with this. In my instruction, when we talk about the ways you can enter the water and put on your gear, there are many ways to do it, and you have to make a decision (oftentimes using your imagination) to determine what is best. If you had taken your isntruction from me, the way you did it would have been the PADI way.

Maybe the students and instructors were PADI? :dontknow:
 
Maybe the students and instructors were PADI? :dontknow:
They may have been, but that doesn't matter. HE said that the way he put on his gear was not the PADI way. I just pointed out that there is no such thing.
 
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