Review Diving the Avelo System

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Saw an Avelo tank on EBAY today... $1,299.00 (10.00 off with the coupon code.) I'm thinking you have to have two... at least in S. Florida

Some interesting photos of the cylinder. Would be nice to get the weight for comparison with normal kit.
 
Saw an Avelo tank on EBAY today... $1,299.00 (10.00 off with the coupon code.) I'm thinking you have to have two... at least in S. Florida
Interesting. I wasn't sure they'd actually be selling these, as the pricing on the tank wasn't released along with the rest of the kit. I'm still not sure that they are going to be for sale. EBay Seller has a rather diverse portfolio of items for sale.

Ouch on the price. In total, I spent just a bit more than that for all of my main tanks (8 at current count).

I also wonder on the longevity of the tank. What are the requalification requirements/intervals? And is there a finite life? As I recall, there were some limitations on the longevity of the carbon fiber wrapped tanks.
 
The Hydrotank is visually inspected yearly and hydrostatically tested every 5 years. The bladder is visually inspected yearly and replaced every 5 years.

The pump on the Jetpack undergoes maintenance every 2 years.
 
The Hydrotank is visually inspected yearly and hydrostatically tested every 5 years. The bladder is visually inspected yearly and replaced every 5 years.

The pump on the Jetpack undergoes maintenance every 2 years.
Thanks for the info. I thought that carbon-wrapped tanks needed a Hydro every three years. Their max lifetime is 15 years. Did Avelo get a special dispensation or are they not carbon-wrapped?
 
Thanks for the info. I thought that carbon-wrapped tanks needed a Hydro every three years. Their max lifetime is 15 years. Did Avelo get a special dispensation or are they not carbon-wrapped?
The COPV, composite overwrapped pressure vessel, is an aluminum liner, wrapped with multiple layers of carbon fiber and fiberglass.

I heard nothing in my training course and see nothing in the training materials about a finite lifespan for the Hydrotank. You can contact Avelo through their website.
 
You won’t be able to assist with additional buoyancy to any person in need — unless you can quickly inflate and deploy a SMB

Memories of panicking and unconscious diver rescue drills spring to mind.

When I took the avelo course, an SMB was indeed a required part of the kit. I recommend carrying an SMB (or DSMB in my case) on every dive, Avelo or not.

One could also attempt to establish buoyancy using the failing diver's own equipment. In the recreational single-tank setups that the Avelo system was designed for, must I be strongly positively-buoyant myself in order to effect a rescue?
 
In my rescue scenarios in many courses (not just Rescue Diver), controlling a diver from behind would often mean dumping your own gas then using their inflator to control the ascent. Obviously this isn't available in Avelo diving, certainly not in the standard location for the BCD inflate and dump.

A friend has had to deal with an IPO/E with a semi-conscious diver, transporting them to the surface.


Wonder if some people on the Avelo system would have a standard wing as well as the rest of the Avelo kit & caboodle. Would make life so much easier in those nasty rescue scenarios not to mention when on a choppy surface waiting for the boat to arrive.
 
There is an Avelo webinar tomorrow night at 8 pm EDT, Sept 12. Shearwater CEO Jason Leggatt will be one of the participants, discussing the Avelo mode on their Teric computer.

You can register for the Zoom event on the Avelo website
 
My wife and I are returning to Bonaire for the last 2 weeks of Oct. I plan on renting Avelo gear for 2 or 3 days of the visit. I will be using my own regulator set this time and have Avelo Mode on my Teric. I will update my review after I return.

I was looking at the Dive Friends website and noticed that they now offer a Discover Avelo option. It includes the online training, a short briefing, and a single dive, with the Avelo equipment run by the instructor. Prerequisites are 12 years old and OW certified. The cost is $150. The Recreational Avelo Diver certification course is still priced at $450.
 
Wow, what a prices for something to try out and later try to sell. We have sometimes here try out dives for drysuit. Costs nothing and if you haven't ever dived a drysuit, there is an instructor available. 150 dollar for only 1 dive, that is probably more than 2 dollar per minute as I guess that the dive will not last 75 minutes. With 8 breaths a minute, calculate what 1 breath costs.

I am still very sceptic about the 'need' or market for the system. A normal bcd does the work, a bp+wing does the work if you want to dive a little more 'DIR', then there are bigger tanks available if needed, 300 bar is not available everywhere. And 200 bars does the job (but does not with avelo if you need a bigger tank than 10 liter 200 bar)

No extra servicecosts, only the regs, bcd and pressuretests for the tank and service the valves. Servicing of regs and valves and bcd can done by a lot of divers themselves. The avelo system is something like a ccr that must be done by factory approved people? Are recreational divers willing to pay for this extra costs?

But I am also very sceptic about the 'need' of a course.
I see an Avelo course something that can be usefull, but not needed for every diver. Is is also way toooo expensive in my eyes. For 150 you can do the whole course as 1 dive and some explaination is way more than enough for experienced divers with tons of dives. Maybe an ow needs more dives, but then make a course optional with also optional an extra day of training. This makes more sense in my eyes. And make it better for all divers. The same as drysuit or sidemount. Can be usefull, but can also learned the autodidactical way or with a buddy that explains you. And in all cases the insurance will pay here.

You are already a (very experienced) diver. you know how to set up a bp+wing. You know how to setup the equipment, this is already written online and the photos are clear enough. So a good diver that is interested in the system is already informed when renting it for a trydive. If you go in the water from shore and feel in knee deep water if the weighting is ok, then go to 2-3m for bouyancy checks, there is nothing that can go wrong for experienced divers. It is still oc. Of course you don't jump in from a boat and go to 20m if you don't know if the weighting is right.
Maybe an big smb or other type of liftbag is not an bad idea, but of course know how it works. I read this is required, good. So know how to use it then.

But 1 thing that is also important for me:
What if you don't get enough bouyancy at surface in waves or at dephts of 40m+ with a thicker wetsuit that looses bouyancy due to depth as weighting is very critical, this is something you will find out later, probably after a course (this is the thing I am most worried about.).
I write 40m+, as remember, the cmas recreational limit is 60m. And I have for example a cmas 3* single tank to 60m on air cert which is also a dm cert. With a wetsuit and single tank this depths are no problem to get enough bouyancy to get back to surface with a normal bcd (I don't talk about the safety of the single tank at 60m and the air breathting, that is another discussion, but with a normal bcd at least you can take an 18 liter steel to do this dive). This means the avelo as recreational system must also work to the recreational depths of a cert. And then the amount of gas is very limited, even if you start with 300 bar in a 10 liter, there is with the gaslaw less than 3000 liter in the tank. So less than an 15 liter. For a dive to 50m in France you take a 15 liter or an 18liter. Yes, this kind of recreational dives are still done there on quite a regular base.
Remember stay within your certification level means for some divers the 60m on air single tank. So they will do. So it is important to know if the system can still bring you up. The amount of gas is user error as this can also be done with a normal bcd, but the bcd at least has enough lift.

And what about solodiving with the avelo? Can the system hold a stage for redundancy? This is also important as recreational divers also can be solodivers. Then you have with an ali80 a few kg's negative. So you must be able to compensate. Also you must be able to compensate if you drain that ali80. The redundant solo equipment also makes it to a 'twinset' for longer solodives for recreational divers. All things I have questions about. But all things that are important for a recreational bcd set.
This is something I also want to figure out if I do a trydive with the system as I take an extra cylinder with me on Bonaire or Curacao for my solo recreational dives. And use both cylinders then.
 

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