Diving incident at Eagles Nest Sink

[RyanT]

What would be the reason you want to remove & replace your BCD underwear?

I don't know, I guess a lot of people like to go commando, I'm not judging. Just kidding of course, please don't look at my typos!

What wetb4 said. I've removed mine on more than one occasional due to a serious entanglement. In a cave, that is sometimes the only way to get through a restriction.

 

[DustyC]

Entanglements around your first stage and you are diving solo.

Which is supposed to be taught in OW. Supposed to be.

 

[archer1960]

I disagree with you on that for warm water, recreational diver with no overhead like myself. First of all, I would never want to remove my BCD until I'm on the boat or fully inflate the BCD and doff it, before climbing on the boat. What would be the reason you want to remove & replace your BCD underwear? If I notice a problem with my BCD, I'll thumb the dive & get back to the boat & fix it. I'd rather be positively buoyant without the BCD than having weightbelt on & sink when I become unconscious for whatever reason. I'd rather end up floating on the surface without the BCD & let the BCD sinks to the bottom than the other way around.

Agreed, but I don't want a 20+ lb difference in buoyancy between me and my BC. When I'm in my cold-weather set up, I need 20 lb of lead. I moved 8 lb from my BC to my harness, so that now I have 8 on me and 12 on the BC, and I'm still positive without the BC, but not so much so as I was before.

 

[Dan]

Entanglements around your first stage and you are diving solo.

Glad to know that I don't dive solo either. May be I'll uncoil the BCD crotch strap & start wearing it from now on. So in the event of that scenario with no buddy near on sight, I can unbuckle the shoulder & waist straps, switch the primary 2nd stage regulator to the octo (secondary 2nd stage regulator) with the extended (longer) yellow hose, turn the BCD around without loosing contact with the BCD by cross legging the BCD crotch strap loop. Thanks!

 

[archer1960]

Which is supposed to be taught in OW. Supposed to be.

For me, the skill was, but not the likely reason for needing to do it.

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

Which is supposed to be taught in OW. Supposed to be.

I'd be curious if any instructors wrapped fishing or cave line around the first stage of an open water student (and around that student) and said, "Okay, now get yourself out of that".

Underwater scuba kit removal and replacement occurs in confined water only and there is no entanglement involved.

 

[kensuf]

The configuration I've seen in person is the GUE setup which has much larger bailouts/off-board dilutent mounted to the (not visible in this picture) rails along the main canister and appeared to be connected together via a high pressure link. It looked enormously heavy. But I didn't mess with someone $12,000+ rebreather.

Diver 1 was diving a standard JJ CCR using side-mount bailout and not the "GUE Config" version. When I removed his body from the ballroom he was easy to manage.

I have not yet seen the abandoned CCR that Diver 2 was wearing. I suspect it was configured the same as Diver 1's rig was configured.

 

[archer1960]

I'd be curious if any instructors wrapped fishing or cave line around the first stage of an open water student (and around that student) and said, "Okay, now get yourself out of that".

Underwater scuba kit removal and replacement occurs in confined water only and there is no entanglement involved.

No entanglement, yes, but IIRC (and I may not), I did mine on one of the early OW dives, as well as in the pool.

 

[KevinNM]

Entanglements around your first stage and you are diving solo.

Or you thought you had a buddy, but now that you need him....

 

[mdb]

Agreed, but I don't want a 20+ lb difference in buoyancy between me and my BC. When I'm in my cold-weather set up, I need 20 lb of lead. I moved 8 lb from my BC to my harness, so that now I have 8 on me and 12 on the BC, and I'm still positive without the BC, but not so much so as I was before.

Like you, I use 20 lbs. of lead in a 7mm hood attached FJ suit.

10 lbs on my tank band, 10 lbs on my waist. Seems to trim out nicely.

I use a back mounted BC-a very old SeaQuest BCP. I have several BC setups this is my fav. clean and easy.