Diving air to 60m

[runsongas]

readily available is not always the case in remote locations where you may want to dive.

 

[beester]

You younger/newer divers do realize that dives like on the Andrea Doria were made often on air, with steel 72s, no bcd’s, no octo?
Just because there are other options now doesn’t make deep dives on air the kiss of death.
Scuba diving can’t be made perfectly safe. You sometimes just do a gut check and do it anyway. As long as you aren’t reckless about it you will be ok.

It's not because people wrote for centuries on pig or cow skin, that we should keep doing it... there are better methods now.

You've recently started diving again after a long hiatus, maybe you should read up on some of the progress being made in the last decade or so, when it comes to deep(er) diving.

PS: Before you start stating about young nowitalls... I started diving at 14 years old in 1990, diving a single 12L with a J-valve and a 1 stage double hose regulator, no computer, diving tables. So yes I think I know where you are coming from.

 

[Celt]

Diving on air is a personal choice, I can pump a twin set and be on a wreck in 2 hours for a total cost of 15 euro, and do it independently. That’s the reality of living in the real world, and I never had an issue with narcosis that I couldn’t deal with. If someone can tell me a way I can do that on trimix then I’m all ears.

 

[beester]

Diving on air is a personal choice, I can pump a twin set and be on a wreck in 2 hours for a total cost of 15 euro, and do it independently. That’s the reality of living in the real world, and I never had an issue with narcosis that I couldn’t deal with. If someone can tell me a way I can do that on trimix then I’m all ears.

Easy dive a breather. (yes I know it's expensive)

But the context here is 60m air diving... Would like to know if you regularly do 60m or deeper air dives with a significant bottom time (say +20 minutes)...

 

[mafi]

Diving on air is a personal choice, I can pump a twin set and be on a wreck in 2 hours for a total cost of 15 euro, and do it independently. That’s the reality of living in the real world, and I never had an issue with narcosis that I couldn’t deal with. If someone can tell me a way I can do that on trimix then I’m all ears.

What depth are you talking about?

 

[cathal]

Stupid Cousteau, what was he thinking, making an air regulator and then using it underwater to "stupid" depths.

Considering the number of dives that have been made safely to that depths depth over the decades, I would think that finding what actually happened may be instructive to everyone, if it is not air related, as you assume.


Bob

You should make yourself familiar with dive fatality rates since deep air diving has mostly ceased. Deep and air are a deadly mix for the various scientific reasons given in this thread i.e WOB, narcosis etc.

 

[W W Meixner]

Diving to 60m (~200’) on air?

Dan...

My feeling was the same ??

At 1.4...21% is good for 186.9 ft...and even at that you're long past the point of thinking with a clear head...

It seems the careless stunts keep piling up along with the death tolls with no end in sight...

W.

 

[Celt]

Easy dive a breather. (yes I know it's expensive)

But the context here is 60m air diving... Would like to know if you regularly do 60m or deeper air dives with a significant bottom time (say +20 minutes)...

The wrecks I dive are from 40 meters to 72 meters, travel and bottom times 30 to 20 min

 

[beester]

The wrecks I dive are from 40 meters to 72 meters, travel and bottom times 30 to 20 min

The interesting question is ... have you dived the same wrecks also on trimix so you can compare your air dives vs trimix dives? If so why are you still diving air (except for your rational that it's cheap and easy to get).

PS: would like to know what area of Ireland and what wrecks you are diving... I'm probably going to visit Ireland in fall, and doing some nice wreck dives is an option

 

[Celt]

What depth are you talking about?

It’s not about how deep but where the wreck is lying,