Also she did not self-report cyanosis and low O2 blood reading - a trained nurse and professional assessed that (and she was not cold water diving in a cold climate).
Who do you think is telling you this? Is her nurse posting, or her? Youre also dealing with self-reporting. You are a fool if you cant see this.
In the gene pool there may be those who instead of being triggered into action by the amigdala full of energy go instead passive and freeze.
And there are those who do not let the panic control them, and instead respond to rational thought. Those are our ancestors.
The others are lion poop.
We survived, not because we can out-run and out-fight wild animals, but because we can think. By saying that we should abandon that when in trouble, you give up on thousands of years of evolution
and common sense.
She did not go passive and freeze, and she dealt positively with her situation. She dealt positively cognitively and in part driven by emotions by making this post and learning from people's comments.
No, she didnt. It took other divers to deal with her situation positively, by inflating her BCD and dropping her weights.
She was in no position to self-rescue and summoned for help at the time and wants to share, learn, and understand.
Yes, she was in position to self-rescue. All it would have taken was for her to remember her training and inflate her BCD, drop the weight like she was trained, and retain her regulator.
Thats it.
Increased heart rate and breathing difficulties reduce dexterity and ability to execute learned and well-practiced tasks (otherwise performed regularly and very well under normal body functioning).Your SCUBA externally learned skills won't save you because under those circumstances you can't carry them out.
So, by your thinking, when I was in Afghanistan, at 6,500 feet, running with 45 pounds of gear, and breathing hard, my externally-learned skills and ability to think could not function? I know youre wrong; because my team was able to precisely execute those tasks and close with the enemy.
As a matter of fact, your externally-learned skills are the ONLY thing that can save you. A panicked diver will thrash around until physically exhausted, then, without any energy left, slip underwater and drown. This is well-known and reported.
That is why she needed help.
NO. In fact, she needed help because of the panic. A rational response of slow, controlled ascent, ditching weights, inflating BCD, and retaining regulator would have placed her in far greater stead than panic.
She wouldnt have even needed rescuing in that case. Instead, the panic required a rescue to save her life.
WOW.
I dont think Ive read anything so
stupid
before as what follows.
If the amigdala triggered her fight or flight response this gave her the extra energy and will to summon for help and keep her airways above water while someone actually came to her rescue.
NO. It impaired her ability to execute the tasks that REALLY would have kept her on the surface and breathing; namely, dropping her weights and inflating her BCD. These two externally learned skills would have done far more than any amount of panicking to save her.
Panic, in NO POSSIBLE WAY, has ever helped her, or anyone else. In this case, it could have killed her, by preventing execution of the tasks she was trained to do. As I said, her panic almost killed her. It compelled her to make an uncontrolled ascent. It prevented her from properly dropping her weights and inflating her BCD. It prompted her to remove and discard her regulator. It dictated a response that could have been fatal if not for the intervention of nearby divers- who did not panic.
Panic NEVER helps to survive in the water. It blocks the rational thought, focuses on ineffective solutions. It wears you out, depletes your resources in a frantic attempt to escape the water, and causes death. By your (il)logic, every diver in trouble should just panic and shoot to the surface like she did. The better response is a rational problem solving one that identifies the problem and a solution, followed by a controlled ascent, and positive bouyancy. Instead; panic dictates a rapid, uncontrolled ascent and flailing around the surface, often without the regulator or mask, trying to escape the water...until someone rescues them or they die.
Stress and Rescue classes focus on PREVENTING panic. There is a very good reason for that. Panic kills. It NEVER helps.
NEVER.
PLEASE, if there are any new divers reading this thread; this divers views are NOT endorsed by ANY training agency, group, or even common sense. Please do not think panic will help you.
And, gianaameri, you live in Mallorca? Please let us know if you come to dive in the Americas. Wed ALL like to stay away from you in the water. And, as I said, you
REALLY need to take a Stress and Rescue class.
Well, maybe not flots; he did say he likes to keep his rescue skills sharp.
