Dive Table compartment questions

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I seem to remember that standard repetitive groups a-o were linked to times or compartments, but I haven't been able to find the reference. Can someone shed some light on this?

Also, I have heard that the standard tables are built around specific compartments. Can anyone provide some information on the basic design/compromises made when generating recreational air/nitrox tables?

Thanx.
 
Can anyone provide some information on the basic design/compromises made when generating recreational air/nitrox tables?

PADI's table development is probably the best documented source of information on "how to" write an algorithm.

Development and validation of no-stop decompression procedures for recreational diving : the DSAT recreational dive planner / by R.W. Hamilton ... [et al. ] ; with Richard Dunford, Merrill P. Spencer, Drew Richardson. Tarrytown, NY : Hamilton Research, c1994.
RRR ID: 4228

But, there is other material to be found on many models. (Suggested Reading List)

Good luck on your reading!
 
Too much to cover in a short answer here. In addition to what is on Gene Hobb's reading list I'll add "Scuba Diving Explained" by Lawrence Martin, for a quick intro into the subject. It's available on the net, google the title and read section J.
 
I seem to remember that standard repetitive groups a-o were linked to times or compartments, but I haven't been able to find the reference. Can someone shed some light on this?

Also, I have heard that the standard tables are built around specific compartments. Can anyone provide some information on the basic design/compromises made when generating recreational air/nitrox tables?

Thanx.

I'm not sure what you're asking, but I'll try to briefly answer.

Compression and decompression theory involves exponential growth and decay. It is thought that various tissue types load and unload at different rates. These are conceptualized using half lives. That is to say that in x-amount of time, a tissue will load to half its capacity (at a given ambient pressure). In the next x-amount of time, it will load to half its remaining capacity. And so on.

The multi compartment models track loading and unloading of various different half lives. Many dive computers track 16.

I believe (but could be wrong) that the PADI dive tables are based on a single tissue half-life: 60 minutes.

The denser tissues and the tissues that aren't very vascular are slower than the others. These include fat and bone. The faster tissues include blood, spinal, etc.. But slow tissue bends aren't usually very severe. If you get a Type II hit, the bubble is in the central nervous system, and is likely a result of fast tissues. 60 minutes is fairly slow, so I guess tracking only it is a compromise.
 
The multi compartment models track loading and unloading of various different half lives. Many dive computers track 16.

I believe (but could be wrong) that the PADI dive tables are based on a single tissue half-life: 60 minutes.
To be more precise, the PADI table repetitive dive calculations are based upon the 60 minute compartment. ALL compartment from 5 minutes and slower are used to determine the NDLs --- that's why deeper than 40' you will reach the NDL limit before reaching the highest pressure group, Z. (As a rough rule of thumb, the contolling compartment will the one with a halftime around 1/2 or 2/3 of the NDL time)

The 60 minute compartment was chosen for pressure group calculations because, with open circuit scuba, the other compartments will have reached their NDL before the 60 minute compartment does. So if you limit repetitive dives to keep the 60 minute compartment within bounds, then all of the other compartments are also within bounds.

This assumption of the controlling or limiting compartment being 60 minutes or faster is NOT true for sequences of 3 or more extraordinarily long dives, which is why the PADI table has the extra W,X,Y, Z rules that mandate a minimum 1 hour or 3 hour SI in some rare cases.

The USN tables were designed to be suitable for very long shallow dives, typical of surface-supplied divers working for extended periods on the bottom of ship hulls. In that sort of dive, the controlling compartment may be as long as 120 minutes, and that is what the repetive groups of the USN tables are based upon. This is why the USN tables are excessively conservative in repetitive dive calculations for open circuit recreational scuba profiles, even though the USN table limits for the 1st dive are much more liberal than the PADI table.
 

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