Disturbing trend in diving?

[Scuba-74]

This thrread has wandered afar and circled about so while off subject, what exactly is the point of logging dives beyond about 100 dives which is the threshold for some courses?

I log my dives for my own benefit, so I can:

- Remember when and were I dived
- Remember which gear I used
- Know my weight requirements for a specific combination of gear, tank type, and salt vs fresh
- Have an idea of temps at various locations and seasons
- Remember how many bugs I caught, if I was lobstering
- Every once in a while, there is something curious enough about a dive to capture as well

 

[TMHeimer]

I'm still wet behind the ears with regards to diving, maybe that's why I log my dives. And being an grumpy old sob, I like to log them with the pen to paper method. (I do download info from my dive computer onto my laptop, but I just like written logs better.)

I've logged all my dives in written form (2 books). Because when I got certified PADI said to do that and I do everything PADI says.

 

[therookie]

another can of worms that will make this thread worthy continuing on for many more pages

This thread may possibly live forever...

 

[LI-er]

I don't believe this has ever happened.

I read it. On the internet.

Thread 'Legal liability of dive buddy'

Apr 17, 2012

Hey all,

I have been doing some reading and thinking lately and came across this Scuba Diving Buddies: Rights, Obligations, and Liabilities by Phyllis G. Coleman :: SSRN The paper looks like a law students addressing the courts decisions on legal liability with buddies. The decisions seem to be inconsistent. I know from medical malpractice, fault and payments are more based on bad outcomes then actual neglect.

My buddy is there for emergencies. If I intend to use my buddy in an emergency it is MY responsibility to stay near him (and vise versa). It is not my job to manage my...

• jimmy71
• Replies: 64
• Forum: Diving Litigation

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[Pressurehead]

100% logged since 1991

In thew late 1990s I tried doing stuff with Suunto software as I then had a computer, but these files are on a hard drive in an old computer, but I still have the written logs of these dives.

Although I download my dives from a Shearwater computer, I still log on paper, which astounds many other divers I meet on boats and on my travels.

YES, same [except 1968].

Do any of you log your dives?

Every dive.
Old habits die hard, and being a requirement to log [ signed ] dives for the first 20 years of diving.
Night dives or very poor vis dives are logged in red ink, another old habit.

Anyway, back on topic.

 

[scubadada]

...Anyway, back on topic.

What was that??

 

[LI-er]

You're not going to get sued by an instabuddy that the dive boat stuck you with.
You're not a pro under contract and getting paid. You didn't volunteer to be the IB's buddy or agree to be fully responsible for them, you're just another paying customer. If something goes wrong the operator will be sued not you.

Your post sounds like what you want to be true because it makes sense and it's upsetting to believe there are things in the world that defy logic and common sense.

But there are.

 

[Pressurehead]

What was that??

Weird, right?

 

[rongoodman]

Although I download my dives from a Shearwater computer, I still log on paper, which astounds many other divers I meet on boats and on my travels.

While I don’t bother with it, it’s fairly common for me to see a few divers filling out log books on the boats I’ve been on.

 

[boulderjohn]

. In the US divers have been sued following an accident involving a random assigned buddy.

I don't believe this has ever happened.

I read it. On the internet.

Thread 'Legal liability of dive buddy'

Apr 17, 2012

Hey all,

I have been doing some reading and thinking lately and came across this Scuba Diving Buddies: Rights, Obligations, and Liabilities by Phyllis G. Coleman :: SSRN The paper looks like a law students addressing the courts decisions on legal liability with buddies. The decisions seem to be inconsistent. I know from medical malpractice, fault and payments are more based on bad outcomes then actual neglect.

My buddy is there for emergencies. If I intend to use my buddy in an emergency it is MY responsibility to stay near him (and vise versa). It is not my job to manage my...

• jimmy71
• Replies: 64
• Forum: Diving Litigation

• 

I read through the study. There is not a single mention of a case in which suing a randomly assigned buddy was even attempted, let alone being a successful suit.

In fact, there are precious few cases of any kind involving buddies. Most of the very few cases there involved professionals, like instructors.