DIR Hoses question

[VTernovski]

Dove last weekend with my new DIR hoses (single tank) -7' primary, 24" backup (Apeks), and 24" SPG hose....

what can I say, the 7' hose is definatelly feels great! comfortable and way more streamlined! But, the 24" SPG was just weired! It was way too short for me to clip to the left hip D-Ring, and if when I did manage to clip it, there was no way fo rme to look at the guage, or to even reach out and unclip it.

I dive Dry, with 30cf stage on the side. and a single OMS 125 LP tank. So instead, I clipped the SPG to the left strap D-ring, and it seems perfect fo rthe time being, but I am curious who the hell do you DIR folks use it with my type of configuration when it's clipped to the left hip D-ring like on those DIR pictures that I;ve seen on the web. By the way, with thick gloves, it was kinda hard to unclip the small bolt snap, I may need to get it replaced with a really bug bolt snap.

 

[Karl_in_Calif]

VTernovski once bubbled...
... I clipped the SPG to the left strap D-ring, and it seems perfect ...

That is my favorite spot for it as well.

 

[CD_in_Chitown]

When and for what do you utilize an SPG Karl?

 

[Karl_in_Calif]

cd_in_SeaTac once bubbled...
When and for what do you utilize an SPG Karl?

1) As an enroute navigation device, to tell me when I should turn around and start to head back on an NDL recreational dive, to indicate when the fun is half way over;

2) As a stage-change indicator, to tell me when to switch to a stange tank, to begin the egression phase of my dive for an NDL recreational dive;

3) To check my buddy's air consumption (on HIS/HER spg);

4) To show my buddy my own air consumption;

5) To make sure I leave a small safety margin of air in my tank, after I have spent a goodly long time at the final 20 ft or 15 ft final stop on an NDL or deco dive.

 

[jonnythan]

VTernovski once bubbled...
Dove last weekend with my new DIR hoses (single tank) -7' primary, 24" backup (Apeks), and 24" SPG hose....

what can I say, the 7' hose is definatelly feels great! comfortable and way more streamlined! But, the 24" SPG was just weired! It was way too short for me to clip to the left hip D-Ring, and if when I did manage to clip it, there was no way fo rme to look at the guage, or to even reach out and unclip it.

I dive Dry, with 30cf stage on the side. and a single OMS 125 LP tank. So instead, I clipped the SPG to the left strap D-ring, and it seems perfect fo rthe time being, but I am curious who the hell do you DIR folks use it with my type of configuration when it's clipped to the left hip D-ring like on those DIR pictures that I;ve seen on the web. By the way, with thick gloves, it was kinda hard to unclip the small bolt snap, I may need to get it replaced with a really bug bolt snap.

I've heard of people having problem with the 24" HP hose. The DIR answer is to either move your tank down or get a slightly longer hose.

I also know that some people do clip the SPG to the left shoulder, so whatever works for you. Don't worry about what's DIR unless you plan to do DIRF or progress through GUE courses. My HP hose is freakishly long, so I can read it just by looking down.. I've been paying more attention lately, so I only need to look at it 4 or 5 times on the average dive.. and I'm always pretty spot on with where I expect to be, so I do plan on moving to the shorter hose.

 

[VTernovski]

Another question on that Subject. I have to Oxycheq single tank 45# wing. and the infl. hose that came with it is way too long. The same problem with my other OMS 45# wing... the hoses were just too long. (single tank diving) what do you recommend I replace it with? what length is more appropriate so that it's not too long and not too short.

Thanks,
VT

 

[Dryglove]

VTernovski once bubbled...
Dove last weekend with my new DIR hoses (single tank) -7' primary, 24" backup (Apeks), and 24" SPG hose....

what can I say, the 7' hose is definatelly feels great! comfortable and way more streamlined! But, the 24" SPG was just weired! It was way too short for me to clip to the left hip D-Ring, and if when I did manage to clip it, there was no way fo rme to look at the guage, or to even reach out and unclip it.

I dive Dry, with 30cf stage on the side. and a single OMS 125 LP tank. So instead, I clipped the SPG to the left strap D-ring, and it seems perfect fo rthe time being, but I am curious who the hell do you DIR folks use it with my type of configuration when it's clipped to the left hip D-ring like on those DIR pictures that I;ve seen on the web. By the way, with thick gloves, it was kinda hard to unclip the small bolt snap, I may need to get it replaced with a really bug bolt snap.

I am not DIR but dive the same setup.

I have found the 24" HP hose works great with double tanks but not with single tanks. For a single tank you need about a 28"-29" hose or close to that. I dont dive singles to often but when i do i just use the 32" hose that came with my SPG although it is a little long. Eventually i am gonna buy a 28"-29" HP hose.

I use a large bolt snap with my SPG. It makes clipping and unclipping a breeze compared to the smaller ones when using thick gloves or dry gloves in my case.

 

[VTernovski]

Yeah... I routed that 24" hose under my arm and clipped it to my left shoulder D-ring, and it's perfect now. not need to unclip it, just pull it slitghtly forward and look down to get the reading. no hassle. I guess I am leaving it this way for now.

My second question, (see above) is what size hose to get for the Wing. the current one is way too long and sticks out like crazy. very annoying!

jonnythan once bubbled...


I've heard of people having problem with the 24" HP hose. The DIR answer is to either move your tank down or get a slightly longer hose.

I also know that some people do clip the SPG to the left shoulder, so whatever works for you. Don't worry about what's DIR unless you plan to do DIRF or progress through GUE courses. My HP hose is freakishly long, so I can read it just by looking down.. I've been paying more attention lately, so I only need to look at it 4 or 5 times on the average dive.. and I'm always pretty spot on with where I expect to be, so I do plan on moving to the shorter hose.

 

[Dryglove]

VTernovski once bubbled...
My second question, (see above) is what size hose to get for the Wing. the current one is way too long and sticks out like crazy. very annoying!

It all depends on how long your inflator/deflator hose is. You should be able to measure from your inflator to your 1st stage to see what you need. The hose on mine is 24" and works with both my single tank and double tank set ups.

 

[Karl_in_Calif]

It seemed like you were getting ready to make a point CDSeatac about clipping the SPG to the left shoulder strap D ring.

Care to proceed?