DIR: God's gift to diving or Hell spawn?

[H2Andy]

The point you're missing is that DIR-F is not tec training.

it most definetely is not

Instead, think of it as the things you should have learned in your OW class - but didn't.

yup... "fundamentals"

I found DIR-F the most intense and worthwhile dive class I've taken.

just looking at the video of your dives is worth the price of admission, imo

that and watching the DIR guys dive... your jaw sort of drops... well, mine did

 

[blueeyes_austin]

The point you're missing is that DIR-F is not tec training. It doesn't ever claim to be. Instead, think of it as the things you should have learned in your OW class - but didn't.

If you don't want to take it, then don't. But to be fair, please don't criticize whether or not it is worthwhile without really knowing what it's about.

Personally, I don't care if other divers want to dive DIR or not. I'm only concerned about my (rec, not tec) diving. I found DIR-F the most intense and worthwhile dive class I've taken. I struggled. And FYI, if interested, I didn't pass. But now I know what kind of skills I want to possess for my rec diving.

Sigh. Did you even bother to read my post?

I am NOT, repeat NOT saying that DIR is worthless. What I am saying is that while it is clearly critical and worthwhile for divers doing some specific things it is LESS worthwhile for divers doing other things. Because of this differential in value based on what a diver wants to accomplish, the cost of DIR training and kit is not necessarily appropriate for all divers. As a result, it is perfectly reasonable for a diver to substitute other training/kit/diving trips in lieu of the enhanced DIR training. This choice does not mean that a non-DIR diver is doing it wrong, merely that the marginal benefit of DIR is not worth it for the diver in question.

Is this really such a difficult concept to understand?

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

(By the way, A marginal increase in trim isn't going to overcome an inability to understand the principles of composition and framing.)

I'm sure he is a much more technically adept diver than I am. He should be if he is doing the dives he claims on his website. Still, I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that my basic photographic skills are more advanced than his/hers simply because it is a field I have been interested in and worked to improve my skills in for over ten years.

ROFL ... you'd lose that bet ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[HarryH97]

ROFL ... you'd lose that bet ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Bob,
You know, some people will never get it, so you just have to ROTFLAO and quietly shrug your shoulders. Some will always view it as "marginal" without every experiencing it. Oh well. It ain't for everyone. Although, I'd imagine serious photographers and videographers would be the real winners. At least it's helped me in my amateurish pics and video.


Harry

 

[blueeyes_austin]

ROFL ... you'd lose that bet ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Perhaps. But if you're basing that opinion simply on the fact that I don't embrace a radical, restrictive view of diving...well, that's a pretty ignorant position to take.

 

[blueeyes_austin]

Bob,
You know, some people will never get it, so you just have to ROTFLAO and quietly shrug your shoulders. Some will always view it as "marginal" without every experiencing it. Oh well. It ain't for everyone. Although, I'd imagine serious photographers and videographers would be the real winners. At least it's helped me in my amateurish pics and video.


Harry

This is exactly my point. You are more interested in the technical aspects of diving...so you focus on those at the expense of photography. Others make different choices about where to spend their effort and dollars.

Really, is this too difficult to understand?

 

[boomx5]

Really, is this too difficult to understand?

Actually, what is so difficult to understand is, how you could pass judgment on GUE training when it is so apparent to the masses here that you can't even get a radar fix of the salient points of the DIR system. Every time you open your mouth about it, you are showing your lack of knowledge. If you want to invest your time and money on photography, then go ahead. However, stop talking about a subject that seems to be outside the grasp of your comprehension.

 

[Kim]

Perhaps. But if you're basing that opinion simply on the fact that I don't embrace a radical, restrictive view of diving...well, that's a pretty ignorant position to take.

He's probably basing it on the fact that OE2X is a professional photographer with a lot of published work!

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

He's probably basing it on the fact that OE2X is a professional photographer with a lot of published work!

... and more dives in the past four months than blueeyes_austin has logged in his lifetime ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[taopitek]

good don't embrace it. Take a PADI peak performace bouyance class. Again I'm not GUE or DIR. A class give you something you can 't get by your self. Insights on skills and objective feed back on your abilities. The title of this thread is DIR gods gift to diving or hell spawn. my opion is it is just another training agencey doing things there way if you don't like it use another training agency. Classes are good they will help you become a better diver. Just by comming to this board shows that your intersted in learning and hoening your craft. If you feel DIR is hell spawn fine there is lots of other training agency. I'm not DIR but I still feel that DIR-F is good training for some one who wants to become a better in the water. Its just another training agency.