DIR: God's gift to diving or Hell spawn?

[WreckWriter]

Very well said trheeltek.

Tom

 

[sheck33]

Originally posted by GP

If I'm not mistaken I thought smoking was prohibited by DIR. The GUE website says to take the DIRF class you have to be a nonsmoker. If that's true then they weren't truly DIR. :boom:

yup it is but it's not too easy to enforce and thats too bad.
When i finally in the far future become a GUE instructor i better
not catch students smoking because i'd kick them out of the class :boom:

smoking should be an absolute contraindication to diving on any medical form used by any agency!!:mean:

 

[divernva]

Sorry I just skimmed through the thread and didn't follow it completely, but thought it was interesting that a lot of people feel as thought choosing a system can keep them alive. Let's not forget about the diver's skill, competency and thoroughness?

Just because someone chooses to use a BP/wing, and long hose doesn't mean they know how to use each tool. What good does that offer to their survival or your survival (assuming you're diving the same type of configuration)?

A lot of people have mentioned very good things throughout the thread. Know your gear: what the purpose, why it's where it is. Understand the limitations. Account and train for all situations for the dive environment. This is what really saves lives no matter what type of system you choose.

Ken

 

[WreckWriter]

Originally posted by sheck33
When i finally in the far future become a GUE instructor i better
not catch students smoking because i'd kick them out of the class :boom:

That's probably not something we need to worry about in the forseeable future is it?

A smoke nazi huh? Attitudes like that are a big part of the reason GUE has a shi!!y reputation. You going to kick people out for eating meat too? If you want to be a true GUE type you eat rabbit food only. Wanna burger?

Tom

 

[Tavi]

Originally posted by sheck33



yup it is but it's not too easy to enforce and thats too bad.
When i finally in the far future become a GUE instructor i better
not catch students smoking because i'd kick them out of the class :boom:

smoking should be an absolute contraindication to diving on any medical form used by any agency!!:mean:

If your that much against smokers, why not take their $$ let them take the course and then fail them??? :huh:

It would be easier to take you seriously if you would fill out your profile!!
Right now it says,
your not from anywhere
you have no age
your not interested in anything
and you don't have a job.

Does this sound like the resume of someone looking to teach GUE???

 

[sheck33]

Originally posted by WreckWriter


That's probably not something we need to worry about in the forseeable future is it?

A smoke nazi huh? Attitudes like that are a big part of the reason GUE has a shi!!y reputation. You going to kick people out for eating meat too? If you want to be a true GUE type you eat rabbit food only. Wanna burger?

Tom

Dear wreckwriter, that using a 100 lb bungeed wing is going to kill you is hard to prove. A lot of people have problems with SOME 'DIR' divers telling other divers they are going to die unless they use THEIR DIR style setup. I do NOT agree with that attitude either. As i said in an earlier post, a lot of very experienced divers have done some amazing stuff and continue to do so using a non-DIR setup.

Smoking however does not fall in that category, unless one is retarded nobody disputes the fact that smoking is stupid, it poisons your body, screws up your respiratory system and makes the smoker a liability to their divebuddy. There are no buts or if's there. Call me a smoke nazi if you will, actually i like that term
They have very good reasons for wanting their students to be non-smokers and i cant imagine that you'd disagree with those reasons. I told my GF that my dives with her will be limited because of her smoking, sorry my safety is more important than anyone's nicotine addiction:boom:

but i'll put you at ease, it will be a while before my instructor course :tease:

 

[sheck33]

Originally posted by Tavi


If your that much against smokers, why not take their $$ let them take the course and then fail them??? :huh:

It would be easier to take you seriously if you would fill out your profile!!
Right now it says,
your not from anywhere
you have no age
your not interested in anything
and you don't have a job.

Does this sound like the resume of someone looking to teach GUE???

Tavi, i'll fill out my profile, something you seem to consider as very important, when you tell me what my profile being filled out has to do with taking me seriously? Would you take me seriously if i told you i had a job?

 

[Tavi]

.........Some mean what they say, and say what they mean.

Others just like to talk for whatever reasons.

It's a little easier to relate to, and understand where people are coming from if you know a little bit about them.
Our profiles help us to have a little more of an idea who we're talking with, than just a name, sometimes a name with an attitude.

There are some well known people on the board, but I suspect most of us are just fun loving divers.

I really don't care if you fill out your profile or not.

I really don't listen much to people who talk big, but hide.

 

[sheck33]

Originally posted by Tavi
.........Some mean what they say, and say what they mean.

Others just like to talk for whatever reasons.

It's a little easier to relate to, and understand where people are coming from if you know a little bit about them.
Our profiles help us to have a little more of an idea who we're talking with, than just a name, sometimes a name with an attitude.

There are some well known people on the board, but I suspect most of us are just fun loving divers.

I really don't care if you fill out your profile or not.

I really don't listen much to people who talk big, but hide.

Hey Tavi,

I filled out my profile for what it is worth. I am neither trying to talk 'big' or 'hide'. Sometimes i am very black/white on some issues because i feel betrayed by the leading training agency's.
Even though i totally dont believe anymore in PADI's approach i still find great joy in helping out with their classes where i also have a chance to just have them look at the DIR setup so they can think about it and decide whether they want to go that route.

I hope i dont come across as a know it all bigmouth cause i know i am not allknowing, lol far from it. Just want to share opinions and
experienceseace:

 

[Tavi]

Just read your profile, Thanks for filling it out, Now I know a little more about who I'm "talking" with.
I'm looking forward to taking advanced nitrox and deco procedures soon (aug-sept).
I had the opportunity this weekend to dive off the same boat as an open water class doing their 3rd and 4rth dives. I was glad I could help out a little bit.

Looking forward to sharing more opinions and experiences.