DIR Advantages

Is there any advantage to DIR if my buddies aren't DIR?

  • Yes - it doesn't matter if they are or not

    Votes: 17 54.8%
  • No - its 'all' or 'nothing' for DIR to work properly

    Votes: 5 16.1%
  • Perhaps - you might still see some benefits even if your buddies are not DIR

    Votes: 9 29.0%

  • Total voters
    31
  • Poll closed .

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I just today finished my DIRF and would recommend it to anyone. It really sets the bar. So much packed into a weekend. Guys with 600 dives struggling with buoyancy during an air share. Timed descents and ascents all messed up from people with hundreds of dives. Very worthwhile. THere was a man in my class this weekend who has been diving since 1964, and he had the same buoyancy/trim issues I did. He called it an " eye opener."
 
RichLockyer once bubbled...

Likewise, to eliminate cost as a consideration, all Gavin scooters and all Halcyon wings (36 and up) and both the SS and Alu plates are the same price.

They'd have to give everyone as many wings as they want for the price of one to make that work.
 
Munin once bubbled...
They'd have to give everyone as many wings as they want for the price of one to make that work.
Nahh... if you are only going to buy one, and price is not an issue, then you are going to buy the one that will be best suited to your needs.
If I want a Gavin, they're all $3500. There's 3 different sizes available. Why wouldn't I just get the Magnum and get the "most for my money"? How about lugging a 110-pound scooter around on the boat when I'm only doing 60 minute rec dives for which the Mako would be adequate. The Magnum would be out of the question. Short or standard? Tough call. If short will ALWAYS do the job, then that would be the one. If I find that I'm often going into the red on my Mako, then I'd really be better off with the standard Gavin.

Same goes for the wings. If I'm only going to buy one for singles and one for doubles, I'm not going to be tempted to get one that's too small for my needs just to save a few bucks. I'm going to get the largest that I would anticipate having a need for, and no larger.
 
RichLockyer once bubbled...
Same goes for the wings. If I'm only going to buy one for singles and one for doubles, I'm not going to be tempted to get one that's too small for my needs just to save a few bucks. I'm going to get the largest that I would anticipate having a need for, and no larger.

I mean they'd have to sell a 27, 36, 40, and 55 together for the price of one wing to make sure nobody thinks it's a bright idea to buy a 55 so they can dive steels, aluminums, and singles with one wing rather than buy the proper wing for each set of tanks.
 
Laser once bubbled...
I just today finished my DIRF and would recommend it to anyone. It really sets the bar. So much packed into a weekend. Guys with 600 dives struggling with buoyancy during an air share. Timed descents and ascents all messed up from people with hundreds of dives. Very worthwhile. THere was a man in my class this weekend who has been diving since 1964, and he had the same buoyancy/trim issues I did. He called it an " eye opener."

I didn't know you were in the class. You should have said something. I sat in on your video review and lecture Sat. night and went to dinner with you guys.
 
Scubaroo once bubbled...
Your poll is a little loaded - I would have voted Yes, but, I don't agree with the "it doesn't matter if they are or not" statement.

Scubaroo, I'm with you on that, Yes was my answer but your right about it mattering if others are or are not, sure it matters.
 
ElectricZombie once bubbled...
I dove a bungied wing in the past...before I saw the light...:out:

One day the wing developed a hole in it while diving...a very small hole, not a gash or anything. Even though the bungies were no where near as tight as the OMS ones (They were actually "perimiter bungies" like on a Dive Rite wing), it still quickly squeezed the air out to the point that I could not get neutral or stay up on the surface. A non-bungied wing would still leak, but not enough to really effect the dive.

After this incident happened, I took them off. This could really be a big problem if you were overweighted. So, based on my experience, bungies really are bad.

We here so much about the "Bungie wings of Death" and never see a story about any real world situations let alone deaths.

I can see how they might cause problems but with no evidence and only DIR folklore to go by may are not convinced.

You have give a great example of a real example, thank you.
 
The only incident I've witnessed with bungee wings was on a Channel Islands liveaboard last December - the only guy on the trip diving doubles also happened to have a bungeed wing. Gearing up for one dive, he somehow got the cord on the lower pulldump wedged under a bungee - giant stride into 60' of water, about 10 seconds later found himself cemented to the bottom at 60' as he sunk like a stone. He couldn't swim his rig up. Couldn't inflate the wings with the pull dump stuck open. Buddy joined him, saw the problem, unhooked it and he got off the bottom to continue the dive.

Luckily it wasn't a dive later in the day where we stepped in over about 150'.

So yeah, as ScoobieDooo alluded to, watch those dump strings being caught under bungees.
 
I'm curious and, no, this isn't Trolling...

What would be the advantage of taking a DIR:F course, adopting the DIR mindset, diving principles, gear config, etc. if your diving friends do not subscribe to DIR as well?

So, did you take the course?

Did it make you a better diver?

Would you do it again?
 

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