Dema show???

[cerich]

Go back in my posts. DEMA cannot open the show to the public. The hall rental costs will explode. I've tried to explain that. This is not a simple problem. You cannot just open the shown to the public without a major financial impact to the show.

Hi Lee,

I understand your point, just don't believe in "can'ts". It seems that DEMA also believes it is possible or they simply want to shut us up after this thread.

Keep it a closed show, just the last day open to everybody with a c-card. Does that keep the costs down? Plus chrge $15 bucks for the "consumer day" in admission to defray the cost.

 

[cerich]

Unless the business model has changed, there is no xyz price. The price changes depending upon the use of the facility. DEMA gets a "discounted rate" because as a trade association its' event is considered an educational show. Most venues are operated by the local governments of the city in which the DEMA show is located in. The economic benefit of a national show, from their perspective, is what is called "heads on beds", attendees renting hotel rooms, dining out, and local entertainment. Their business model includes the additional revenue this brings into the community. A consumer show, they view, is a local event. Locals come and attend but do not add much additional value to the local economy.

This is econ 101. I don't make the rules or necessarily agree with them, I'm just telling you the way it is. Ask the questions and I will give you the facts.

Even under that it wouldn't need to change, it is still a International Trade show, just open to divers the last day to see the toys. It only becomes a local consumer show if DEMA decides to bill it that way. There is no good eason I can see they would want to change the character to strictly a consumer show.

 

[Leadking]

OK guys, beat me up because I'm telling you what you don't want to hear.

I can tell you that the DEMA Board looked at it and found out what I'm posting here.

 

[cerich]

OK guys, beat me up because I'm telling you what you don't want to hear.

I can tell you that the DEMA Board looked at it and found out what I'm posting here.

I'm not beating you up.

Have you seen the emails from Ingram and DEMA the last couple weeks? They seem to be considering it again.

 

[cool_hardware52]

I'm not beating you up.

Have you seen the emails from Ingram and DEMA the last couple weeks? They seem to be considering it again.

It adding a consumer day is a "Can't do" due the increase in costs of the county owned convention center one wonders why DEMA is "surveying" it's membership about doing exactly that.

It's either possible, or the survey is a charade. Pick one.

Tobin

 

[widget]

DEMA gets a "discounted rate" because as a trade association its' event is considered an educational show. Most venues are operated by the local governments of the city in which the DEMA show is located in. The economic benefit of a national show, from their perspective, is what is called "heads on beds", attendees renting hotel rooms, dining out, and local entertainment. Their business model includes the additional revenue this brings into the community. A consumer show, they view, is a local event. Locals come and attend but do not add much additional value to the local economy.

Okay, fair enough Leadking, I can understand the rational behind that thinking.

I assumed the halls to be privately owned and operated, not by the local government, hense my "wondering" how it would benefit a "private owner / operator" to charge more for a "consumer show" .

 

[widget]

Hi Lee,

Keep it a closed show, just the last day open to everybody with a c-card. Does that keep the costs down? Plus chrge $15 bucks for the "consumer day" in admission to defray the cost.

Yes, even as an international trade visitor only seeing my suppliers (face to face) once or twice a year, all my business is easily done in two days at Dema (one and a half if I raced around ) I then may wonder around for a few hours on the third day, drink a few beers and go do some sight seeing, the fourth day I sleep late and usually leave in the afternoon, most of the international visitors I know follow a similar schedule.

No international visitor I know would worry if the last day was opened to the public, I actually believe it would benefit the show and the sport, certainly were I a manufacturer I would welcome it, but thats just me.

 

[mdb]

Yes, even as an international trade visitor only seeing my suppliers (face to face) once or twice a year, all my business is easily done in two days at Dema (one and a half if I raced around ) I then may wonder around for a few hours on the third day, drink a few beers and go do some sight seeing, the fourth day I sleep late and usually leave in the afternoon, most of the international visitors I know follow a similar schedule.

No international visitor I know would worry if the last day was opened to the public, I actually believe it would benefit the show and the sport, certainly were I a manufacturer I would welcome it, but thats just me.

I think you are about spot on Widget. We no longer exhibit @ DEMA for all the pre stated reasons. We do attend and have meetings with our International colleagues.
We normally spend three nights and leave on the 4th day.

Las Vegas is very hungry for business. I seriously doubt having the last day open to consumers would effect any rates at all.

 

[The Chairman]

Wow... my PM box is being filled with support for my stance in this thread. Thanks to everyone who thinks that ScubaBoard is making a difference. I understand why you feel you need to not be identified! Here is a quote from one of them:

BTW - I agree with your sentiments about DEMA. But I don't think it's a matter of them having their collective heads in the sand. Rather, they live in terror of a free flow of information - and you are their Osama bin Laden - whether you realize it or not!

I want to see the industry thrive, and SB is the clear and truthful way for that to occur.

 

[mdb]

Wow... my PM box is being filled with support for my stance in this thread. Thanks to everyone who thinks that ScubaBoard is making a difference. I understand why you feel you need to not be identified! Here is a quote from one of them:

Pete:

We do not mind being identified. As stated previously, you have created the best forum for divers worldwide to talk, share information, ask questions, become informed.

The fact that you have offered, more than once, to share your expertise at no charge and were advised not to do so is disappointing.

Perhaps this thread will change it all. I'll be there early for a front row seat.