Creation vs. Evolution

[H2Andy]

Since having these discussions make me irritable and cranky I shall bow out rather than continue in an uncivil manner.

excellent idea

 

[Thalassamania]

Wow.....this thread went wild. There are many arguments, and each can be defended with great emotion. I understand most points on both sides. However, if this were a poll, my vote is Creation.

Truth and reality are not determined by ballot.

 

[BIGSAGE136]

Okaaay. H2Andy, you came back again and said that you wanted a scripture that said it was round, but round as is a sphere. I get it, I really do, but show me a verse where it says that they thought it was flat. Isaiah described it as a circle because he was talking about it from God's perspective, from the heavens the earth would appear to be circular, the same as the moon appears circular to us, not a globe shape. The Bible is written in, umm, "prosy" terms, like most books were at that time. That doesn't mean that the writer, Isaiah, thought the earth was flat. Have you ever heard anyone say, "The setting sun was beautiful today!" or anything like that? Would you suggest that they believe that the sun rotates around the earth?

My Grandmother used to say-

A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

I believe that, don't you? This thread isn't accomplishing anything except giving people a place to bash other peoples ideas and beliefs and exchange insults. Since having these discussions make me irritable and cranky I shall bow out rather than continue in an uncivil manner.

You guys are using the word figurativly when it is used to describe a situational existence. You have to look at it as a statement of being. Break out Strongs. The term is meant to describe a compassionate circular existence...a life cycle.

Sort of like "Here I reflect upon the infinite cycle of life viewing mans being as a humble living shell that shelters the soul from the exposures of the infinite".

 

[aquanuts...]

Fuzz, did u check out the link to the online coloring book from the bible. That chit will calm your nerves faster than five tranks in the arse of a tiger.

I spent hours coloring and calming my nerves after realizing how cruel Jesus and God were by ignoring the South American and North American cultures on the other side of the earth. Luckily, out of the goodness and charity of their heart (yeah right) the Spaniards and English came and tought them about God so they could start dying and going to heaven. Unfortunately it was over a thousand years after Jesus died on the stick. So many generations just perished in the fires of hell for no other reason other than not accepting Jesus and the christian God...or the jewish God...or the Muslim God. These other cultures simply were not taought by man to know any of these deities. How sad, right?

Even sadder is that, as you say, the bible specifically spelled out that the earth was a sphere, and the slothing christians did not get off their arses to go save these other cultures on the other side of the earth. It is so depressing, I think I am gonna go color some more.

Your making a lot of assumptions. How do you know that God can't cross a language of cultural barrier? How do you know the only way God can cross the pond is in a boat? Are you assuming since Jesus wasn't a sailor, he couldn't cross an ocean? How do you know that people in other cultures went to hell? Are you the judge? Can you back this claim with scientific evidence?

You are placing human limitations on God and this is a fundamental mistake.

 

[SeanQ]

Can you back this claim with scientific evidence?

Can you?

 

[agilis]

Aquanuts is absolutely right.
God only able to cross the pond in a boat? Nonsense.
He can easily take an airplane. God probably gets free tickets, and only a brief glance from the TSA. After all, it's God, for Heaven's sake.

"Sir, you'll have to remove those sandals. And where did you say you're from?"

Jesus not a sailor? Obviously not a Leonard Cohen fan.

Cultural barriers? God can speak a number of European languages, and enough Chinese to read a menu in Hong Kong. This is in addition to Aramaic.

 

[Green_Manelishi]

Truth and reality are not determined by ballot.

Affirmative. Nor are they always determined by "science".

 

[Thalassamania]

Affirmative. Nor are they always determined by "science".

Actually we took a vote, and they are.

 

[BIGSAGE136]

Shhh!

The trees are laughing!

http://fusionanomaly.net/secretlifeofplants.html

 

[Bryan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3W36jl1Lj8