Creation vs. Evolution

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Ok so what do you think/know about the afterlife?

I've been in touch with the "departed" on several ocasions, how about you?, I'm quite sure that what we call life is not the end of existence, but this flies in the face of "science"

I'll bet that makes you feel better too. And isn't that what It is all about?

 

[lamont]

A scientific Law is a readily demonstrable fact, that cannot be disproven.

Sorry, you're flatly wrong and you don't understand science. The essence of any scientific law, theory or hypothesis is that it should be testable. For something to be unable to be disproven, that would mean that it would inherently not be testable and not be scientific.

 

[lamont]

Soggy has stated that he is an atheist. I point out that it is a Faith based belief simply because soggy is not all knowing-all seeing ect. So the one place he can not see, is where God is.

Sorry, not as clear as I would like it to be as no coffee yet.

I would like to reply to some of your posts tonight, out of time this AM.

I'm operationally an atheist, but I have no faith. I can't prove or disprove God's existance. But I'm not really comfortable with calling myself an agnostic. If this were a poker game and we were betting on the existance of God an agnostic would not make a large bet or fold because of uncertainty. I'm perfectly willing to go 'all in' on the non-existance of God, but I can't prove that I'd win the bet...

 

[lamont]

Ok so what do you think/know about the afterlife?

I've been in touch with the "departed" on several ocasions, how about you?, I'm quite sure that what we call life is not the end of existence, but this flies in the face of "science"

I had a close friend die a few years ago of cancer. I've never once felt like he was still there. I lost about 30 lbs of weight to try to be healthier after he died, I think a bit of "carpe diem" attitude based on some of the potential that he never fulfilled is responsible for me taking up diving and definitely has a hand in my taking up technical diving, and I just bumped into someone else who knew him the other day that works at the same place I do. So he's left ripples in the space-time continuum, but they're not supernatural at all...

 

[H2Andy]

Soggy has stated that he is an atheist. I point out that it is a Faith based belief simply because soggy is not all knowing-all seeing ect. So the one place he can not see, is where God is.

look, if you want to believe in a supernatural being that existed before time, and who will last for ever, and who will give you everlasting life when you die, that's fine, you
can believe that

i haven't seen any evidence of such a being. *if* there is such a being, so all-powerful, i don't understand why the smell of burnt goat was so attractive to it in the old days of temple worship.

also, i don't understand how i can be more open minded that such an all-powerful being. your God seems rather closed-minded (you either worship me, or i'll snuff you for eternity)

the more i look into God, the more i see a mirror, with a bunch of people being reflected back at me.

i thus conclude tha God is a construct, a metaphor for something else, which changes as the people change.

that's not faith. that's my poor reasoning abilities being put to use.

 

[Soggy]

Yeah, what Andy said....

 

[lamont]

Yeah, what Andy said....

Ditto .

 

[Azza]

Yup!
Couldn't have said it better

 

[Soggy]

I concur.......

 

[H2Andy]

hey, i like this trend a lot

really, really a lot

like, a lot lot

(not just a little lot either, a big lot)