Cost differences Mexico v Florida

[Jack Hammer]

I guees my instructors did a good enough job to keep me from making what appears to be dumb mistakes.

Anybody can make dumb mistakes, regardless of who they trained with.

 

[rddvet]

Don't let overconfidence be your weakness.

That's not an issue. I have a healthy respect for the dangers of the cave and believe heavily in progressive penetration and knowing the cave well before pushing further. I see how some of these "issues" people have with how lines are set up in MX could be a problem. My instructors focused on cave and line awareness just as much as they did the standard physical skills of cave diving. I think appropriate awareness can be a deterrent to alot of the problems these line differences can cause.

Doesn't mean I'm perfect. I had an incident in France where a poor understanding of the jacked up lines led to me taking a slightly different route out than planned. That incident reinforced the signifcance of cave awareness to me. I'm probably more cautious than most.

 

[rjack321]

You might be referring to a different case than the one rjack321 referenced. The one I am referring to was only a couple years ago. In this case, it appears the diver was at fault for not marking his own jump properly. Confused by contradictory arrows leading to different places, he apparently tried to exit in the wrong direction after pulling his jump, realized his mistake, and did not have enough gas to get back. He was diving solo, so that is all an inference from his computer, etc.

Same cave system different fatality

 

[bamafan]

Reach gaps, super long jumps, conflicting arrows, and inconsistent marking of guidelines is for sure unsafe.

It has been years but is the jump to the Lockwood Tunnel in EN still 2' or so?

 

[PfcAJ]

It has been years but is the jump to the Lockwood Tunnel in EN still 2' or so?

I think it's a bit farther. But the abyss room is like 8 inches. A certain someone nearly had an anyurism when I wrote that I make it a T.

 

[bamafan]

The only issue I have had with lines in the Mexican caves is the disintegration of the lines in 4 or 5 years in the saltwater caves. Not really an issue on the mainland but on Cozumel you have to be careful. I have had them break and leave me without a continous guideline to the surface. As far as navigation I haven't seen anything worse than what is in some of the river caves in Florida. There are some caves in Florida with 4 or 5 lines running in the same direction due to the damage done during floods.

 

[bamafan]

I think it's a bit farther. But the abyss room is like 8 inches. A certain someone nearly had an anyurism when I wrote that I make it a T.

I understand the no T deal in the front of the training caves but after that I prefer them.

 

[The Chairman]

you'd probably be able to almost instantly sort out your position.

Been there and done precisely that.

 

[Capt Jim Wyatt]

A certain someone nearly had an anyurism when I wrote that I make it a T.

Who would that be?

 

[PfcAJ]

Who would that be?

Not you.