Considering PADI master diver

[Thalassamania]

You clearly don't, but then this discussion is above your pay grade. Instructors interested in quality programs care because they may find a way to do something better (most everything I do I've learned from someone else, there's very little original here), but those who dish up the party line passed off as quality instruction are likely to pose an air of interference. To evidence interest would be to admit to their incompetence, but I'm sure they steal a guilty peek when no one's looking.

 

[TeddyDiver]

rather do the Naui Master Diver, you will learn way more and is worth the money

It really boils down to the instructor. I've done it (Naui MSD), and worth next to nothing (except the card)

 

[TeddyDiver]

I don't see the point to argue in almost every thread considering diving courses, or smthing related, about the different philosophies in dive training. Everyone for sure have a point, but anyway...

 

[spankey]

TeddyDiver is will totaly agree with you. Although you cant tell me if your instructor or even you, yourself read the entire master divers book, that you did not learn anything, unless you had already studied all the topics before at university or some.

But just to add and not to bash. Padi (not sure about others) require their insructors to have big check lists to see that their students can do the relavent skills. This stops them from giving a broader view on topics etc. Which is a limitation that Naui does not place on their instructors. I personal feel there is a big gap between the two. But at the end of the day it does come down to the intructor and what he/she is willing to put into any coruse.

 

[TeddyDiver]

spankey:Although you cant tell me if your instructor or even you, yourself read the entire master divers book, that you did not learn anything, unless you had already studied all the topics before at university or some.
Long story short: The entry level course (CMAS) I had basicly covered everything up to MSD (except rescue and supervising) so...
spankeyadi (not sure about others) require their insructors to have big check lists to see that their students can do the relavent skills. This stops them from giving a broader view on topics etc.
Broader view can be presented, but it's not "a requirement" anymore.. Anyway I thats how I do...
spankey:Which is a limitation that Naui does not place on their instructors. I personal feel there is a big gap between the two.
NAUI Instructor is allowed to ad requirements with skils/knowledge to pass the course. right?
spankey:But at the end of the day it does come down to the intructor and what he/she is willing to put into any coruse.
:wave-smil

 

[Don Wray]

The checklist also has a purpose. Once the skill is completed, both the instructor and student initial that the student was taught that skill and filed away. Years later when the Sheriff shows up at the door with papers suing the instructor for having eliminated that from poor Johnny's course, you pull it out with the date, initials and class mates name for the Judge. CYA. You are expected to expound on the tasks and why it is important.

 

[Bonuss]

Blah Blah Blah .... another smug everything sucks thread...

Bob in CO

 

[djb_1965]

Have to agree with Bonuss here, Skywalk just wanted an opinion on if the cert was worth it or not. Seems like every time an average guy comes in to ask a simple question, the so called experts start up with the "mine is better than yours" stuff. I personally would not take a course from people who are "experts" and will let you know it. The whole idea is to learn to be a better diver every day, for some that is through classes, and others on their own. It is pretty intimidating to even bring up things in the forum, because of the fear of being bashed.

 

[MikeFerrara]

Have to agree with Bonuss here, Skywalk just wanted an opinion on if the cert was worth it or not. Seems like every time an average guy comes in to ask a simple question, the so called experts start up with the "mine is better than yours" stuff. I personally would not take a course from people who are "experts" and will let you know it. The whole idea is to learn to be a better diver every day, for some that is through classes, and others on their own. It is pretty intimidating to even bring up things in the forum, because of the fear of being bashed.

Gee, it sounds like you're bashing someone.

 

[Buoyant1]

Hmmm...do you have to do the extra specialties AFTER AOW and Rescue? I already have Enriched Air and Equipment specialist (basically because I wanted Nitrox, and the EQ Spec class)

If you don't have to wait, I'm almost halfway through the specialties....(now I just have to do AOW and Rescue!)