Considering Navy Diver, help please

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However from what im gathering here it looks like the training ill get Specifically in the Navy diving rate isnt going to be comparable to hook me up with any kind of commercial job? That would seem odd to me because is says specifically on the site your getting extensive training in all diving gear, using all the de-compressor things for long dives, and using multitudes of underwater tools like welding, saws, ect. Just in case i wasnt clear enough, this rate is specifically for diving. Its not seals or eod's or anything. You are a professional diver.

But it seems like in your opinion this isnt going to offer me the professional experience im looking to get out of a rate so I might pass on it and looks into a different rate. Thanks guys.

Spec ops dive training isn't much more than advanced recreational training using rebreathers. They don't get training on welding, saws, etc, they don't repair or construct things they destroy them.
About the only equal civilian jobs would be hit man, mercenary soldier, demolition expert , body guard, etc.
SEAL's and Navy working divers are two entirely different animals. Don't confuse the two, you need to do more investigation into what each is and which you want.
 
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i DEFINETELY know what im getting myself into.Not until you get into it will you know. Just knowing someone in it just gives you a rough idea.

Im a very smart smart guy and have no doubts if i wanted to could test into and survive the Nuke program, while at the same time i was raised very mentally and physically tough so the BUD's the SEALS and all specials ops the like the Divers go through does worry me to much.It better or you're on your way to failing it already. ;)

Gary D.
 
Please do not take this the wrong way....It is my opinion only that you want to go into the navy because your brother is in the navy. You want to become a navy diver because you are hoping it will lead to a great paying job on the outside when your tour is done. If I am correct ( and maybe I am not, but again this is my personal opinion from reading your post and responses to everyone) this is all the wrong reasons to enlist in the armed forces. They will own you for 4 - 6 years and then however much longer you re enlist for. If something does not go your way and you fail the physical or cant see colors properly, would you be ok with them sticking you in a room behind a typewriter? You need to think about this step and think long and hard.

If you do enlist, thank you for supporting the armed forces and everything they stand for. If you do not enlist I hope you still take a class and dive because it is fun.
 
I have been active duty for 10+ years now, I am not a full time Navy Diver, but I an open circuit diver and seen a lot of crap. I don't care what the recuiter says, they won't be there when you go to dive school, and they can not gaurentee anything, YOU have to put in the work, and YOU have to have the desire to succeed. Dive school is hard, and many, many people wash out. Make sure that joining the Navy is something that you actually want for you.

Besides, many of the jobs as underwater welders and other commercial diving jobs are with the oil industry, which if you haven't noticed is having a tough time right now, and we all know the future administration is not exactly friendly to off-shore drilling. I think you are going to find those jobs harder and harder to find in the future.
 
I have been active duty for 10+ years now, I am not a full time Navy Diver, but I an open circuit diver and seen a lot of crap. I don't care what the recuiter says, they won't be there when you go to dive school, and they can not gaurentee anything

I know a recruiter. They're under incredible pressure and would promise that your CO would come in every night and put a mint on your pillow if they thought it would get you to sign up.

This isn't to say that you shouldn't join, just that what you finally end up doing will depend pretty much entirely on what they need and where they think you'll fit. Generally it won't be anything that you're bizarrely unsuited for, however it's also not necessarily your first (or second) choice either.

Terry
 
Catzen, I was in the Navy for 10 years before leaving to change careers. My bf of 15 years is currently a Navy Diver with a specialty in explosive ordinance disposal which means he is supposed to be dismantling bombs/mines underwater. He was taught and has used all sorts of underwater equipment in the course of his duties. Currently, he is in Iraq for his 2nd tour with a tour in Afghanistan in the middle and a tour in Darfur before this. This means that for the past 5 years he has spent about 4.5 years under constant stress in extreme war zones because as a special ops guy he is in high demand and I have seen him less than 6 months in 5 years. When I first joined, I was stationed in Guam for 2 years and became good friends with the divers there, my bf included. This was at the beginning of the 1st gulf war (1990) and I saw first hand how much in high demand they were for situations that normally the Marines and Army go to. Even in Guam, rarely do the divers have it easy. When the Army and Marines are undermanned in an area that Navy special forces are capable of doing (and many times more than capable) the Navy goes and supplements them.

Please don't take this the wrong way but I can tell you that the odds of you making it to Navy Diver is pretty slim. Navy Diver/BUDS/EOD classes have an extremely high attrition rate. I think the average is less than 10% success rate. It is a mental game as well as a physical one. If you are not mentally ready, you might as well not even try because they will break you and once they do, it is all down hill from there. I have seen many guys go through the program through my bf and it is not good when they don't make it. If you can make it mentally, great! but watch out for the physical part. Pull a hammie or something that takes any time to recover and you are out. Keep in mind that even though you are out of the program that you wanted you have guaranteed the Navy 4-6 years of your life. They don't let you out of your contract because you cant do what you wanted. You still have to give them the time and you likely go to the fleet unrated seaman and will spend a year or two painting the side of some ship.

If you are thinking about joining based on the pay after you get out, you probably should not join. I am not saying not to join but if you are only thinking about what it is worth to you when you leave, you are making a big mistake. I was in for the long haul. I only left after I completed my BS in Electrical Engineering and was accepted into Law School. So I left knowing that I had a great future ahead of me with great earnings potential. However, I did not join with this plan in mind. I joined because I just wanted something different than what I had in high school.

The earning potential for underwater divers with specialties is pretty good (if you can find a job and if you get hired) and has advantages if you can get a civil service job, your military time earns you credit toward retirement and you get a leg up in getting the job because of the prior military service (not first dibs but possibly first look by the person hiring). If you are looking for a private sector job, all things are different and military experience is generally not enough. In all cases, military or not, diver or not, you should make sure that you follow through with your education and get a college degree while you are in the service as it is a big bonus while in and it will help you get a job when you get out.

I can tell you that joining the Navy was the best thing I had even done for myself. I would not change any of it. I am glad that I left, but do not regret joining. But I also knew that every day that I was on active duty, I was there to serve and protect my country. I was there to preserve freedom for me, my family and everybody else who honors the American flag. Every day, I knew this, even as I drank my way through Europe and sat semester after semester earning my credits in college.

If you are truly interested in the opportunity to serve in the military as a Diver or any other rate in the Navy you need to talk to a recruiter as soon as possible so they can even see if you are qualified. BUt make sure that what ever they promise you is in writing and in your contract. If it is not, it is not promised and you will be SOL for that promise.

Navy Diving | We Dive The World Over This is the link to the US Navy Diver Web Site. You should look this over and contact the Navy Dive Recruiter that is listed on that page or your local Navy Recruiter.

Good luck to you. No matter what, if you are interesting in Diving in general, you should take a class and try it. I never wanted to dive until another friend said I should and finally after all these years with a diver, I finally did it. It was a great shock to my bf when I sent him the picture of me underwater on my first dive as a certified diver. Now, if he can only make it out of Iraq in one piece and relatively safe and sane, we can go diving for pleasure on his next opportunity for leave.
 
The last 10 or so posts are dead on. Please do your homework and then some, or else you will most likely be one of those guys that comes out of the Navy complaining, "the Navy SCREWED me!".
Good Luck and Go Navy.
 
I know a recruiter. They're under incredible pressure and would promise that your CO would come in every night and put a mint on your pillow if they thought it would get you to sign up.
:rofl3: Sad, but true! They have eliminated quotas. They now call it "Recruiting Goals"

This isn't to say that you shouldn't join, just that what you finally end up doing will depend pretty much entirely on what they need and where they think you'll fit. Generally it won't be anything that you're bizarrely unsuited for, however it's also not necessarily your first (or second) choice either.
Terry
That's why they call your duty choices "Dream Sheets", :coffee:
 

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