Cold / deep regs and tech computer

[Hoyden]

There are many regulators that will work fine for the diving you are aiming towards - I have Zeagles (flatheads), Scuba Pros (mk 25s with g250s) and Poseidons (Cyclons) that all breathe fine at depths below 200'. I prefer the Scuba Pros for hose routing and the Poseidons for really cold water, but you really couldn't go wrong with any of those - the Zeagles would be the least expensive. I admit to being a gear junky and have five sets of doubles regs, 6 stage regs and a couple of sets of singles regs - as long as you stay away from bottom of the line and off brand regulators, almost anything on the market will be okay as long as it is balanced, correctly tuned and maintained. Find a good tec instructor and go from there.

Jackie

 

[DiveTub]

I should have also mentioned that my Apeks regs have been to 204' and performed flawlessly.

Ahh so whats your point :huh:
Taken Envoy's deeper than that and they also performed flawlessly

Cheers
Chriso

 

[Tavi]

Ahh so whats your point :huh:
Taken Envoy's deeper than that and they also performed flawlessly

Cheers
Chriso

I wasn't comparing regs. Just telling the OP That my Apeks regs work great Cold and Deep. (which is what he asked for in his first post!!)

What's my point? :mooner:

 

[Colliam7]

I'm looking for suggestions for popular regs for cold diving ( 40 degrees and lower) and for deep diving ( 200' - 300')..

I dive Apeks ATX200s in cold water, and moderately deep (170') water, and find they are functional, breath very easy at depth, etc. The current equivalent is the XTX200, which you should be able to get into for high-$500s. (I use AT20s on my deco bottles and do not recommend them for very cold water, BTW.)

I'm also looking for suggestions for popular computers to handle multiple breathing gasses typical of deeper dives..

I dive a Vytec and a Nitek He as back-up. Both handle multiple gases (3 Vytec, 7 He), are easily switchable underwater. The Vytec doesn't handle He for deeper dives. The He (which does) is no longer manufactured (we are awaiting the commercial 'unveiling' of the new Dive Rite model) but still readily available, and the used price has dropped well below $500.

Please limit replies to manufacture, model, average price, link to where to find more info, where to buy, and why you like it or think it is great.

Oh, so you want real information? Does that mean you don't want us to launch into a tangentially related hijack of this thread, in which we scathingly call into question (without knowing anything about you, your background, training, and experience, of course): 1) your skills, 2) your intelligence, 3) your genetic heritage, 4) your lack of proper training, 5) the appropriateness of your even asking these questions to begin with, and 6) your preferred method of eating asparagus? I am shocked, shocked I say, at such a request. After all, isn't that what SB is all about?

 

[Meng_Tze]

....Does that mean you don't want us to launch into a tangentially related hijack of this thread, in which we scathingly call into question (without knowing anything about you, your background, training, and experience, of course): 1) your skills, 2) your intelligence, 3) your genetic heritage, 4) your lack of proper training, 5) the appropriateness of your even asking these questions to begin with, and 6) your preferred method of eating asparagus? I am shocked, shocked I say, at such a request. After all, isn't that what SB is all about?

Wow, this must be a new record..... 14posts before this came up.

 

[TheStosh]

Oh, so you want real information? Does that mean you don't want us to launch into a tangentially related hijack of this thread, in which we scathingly call into question (without knowing anything about you, your background, training, and experience, of course): 1) your skills, 2) your intelligence, 3) your genetic heritage, 4) your lack of proper training, 5) the appropriateness of your even asking these questions to begin with, and 6) your preferred method of eating asparagus? I am shocked, shocked I say, at such a request. After all, isn't that what SB is all about?

You hit the nail on the head.

By the way, another one of my motives for my original post is that I have also been talking with some divers locally and one of the things they didn't like about their favorite computer was that you had to put all your favorite gas mixes in everytime. It would hold onto one, but you had to start from scratch for all the others.

Have any of you noticed any little nuances that they fixed in a newer model that would make me want to stay away from certain older model computers?

 

[Thalassamania]

When you weary of opinions and want facts:

U.S. Navy Approved Diving Equipment list

National Science Foundation Antarctic Research Diving article.

 

[Rick Inman]

When you weary of opinions and want facts:

U.S. Navy Approved Diving Equipment list

I'd put this data into the mix, but I've seen the military make equipment purchasing decisions, so I wouldn't call this the last word by any means.

National Science Foundation Antarctic Research Diving article.

12 year old data, but again, very enlightening - at least for what models that are on there.

Thanks for the links, Thal.

 

[Thalassamania]

Neither list supports the "end all, be all" regs of the tech world, either then (12 years ago) or now. I know it's hard for ScubaPro, Atomic and Zeagle lovers to grasp that regulators that they'd not deign to even test, like Sherwood and Mares, give superior results for cold.

 

[Colliam7]

Wow, this must be a new record..... 14posts before this came up.

I guess we all have to work harder to keep current.

By the way, another one of my motives for my original post is that I have also been talking with some divers locally and one of the things they didn't like about their favorite computer was that you had to put all your favorite gas mixes in everytime.

Definitely a problem with the Nitek He - very frustrating. I am not a beta tester for the new Dive Rite unit, and perhaps others can comment. Vytec holds them, but it is a 3-gas, non-He computer. Love to hear about other multi-gas, He-enabled units

… but I've seen the military make equipment purchasing decisions, so I wouldn't call this the last word by any means.

Yep, for example let’s deploy HumVees without armor plating underneath. No, no wait, let’s refuse to even allow armor plating underneath!

Neither list supports the "end all, be all" regs of the tech world, either then (12 years ago) or now. I know it's hard for ScubaPro, Atomic and Zeagle lovers to grasp that regulators that they'd not deign to even test, like Sherwood and Mares, give superior results for cold.

Great point! Marketing seems to have positioned several brands at the forefront. I have a Mares reg (MR12) that I unhesitatingly rec dive to 100’ – albeit in warmer waters -without any problem whatsoever. But, it is primarily my ‘pool reg’ and I guess I never really think of it as a ‘serious’ reg. I wonder if we are overlooking some very good regs because they are not the ‘in’ brands.