Can't do proper Safety Stop & Weighting questions

[happi]

Hello,

I've problems doing my saftey stop @ 5m. I have the tendency to 'float up' soon after our divemaster signalled us to perform the safety stop.
Anyone can advice me how to control my buoyancy?? :06:

Another Qns:
How do I shed weights slowly? I've problems descending for my recent dives & I've added more weights to help my descent.... I was hoping to shed some weights in my next dive if possible...

 

[fdog]

Happi:

I weight to be neutral, at the surface, with an empty tank(s). In practical terms, this means I'm about a pound heavy with a tank at 300-500 psi (at the surface).

This allows me to keep control of my ascent easily over the last 10' (3m).

Because of gas weight loss, weighting this way will mean you are heavy at the begining of the dive.

If you are having problems floating at the end of the dive, you probabally don't need to remove weight at the begining.

I'm pretty sure this isn't what is taught now, but it's right for me.

All the best, James

 

[beachdivequeenbelam]

I had the same problem when I started diving and I add about 3 lbs for my empty tank because it is 2 lbs. postive when empty but I own my own tank. You have to be a little heavy at the beginning to be neutral at the end. I have a thread going that dealt with buoyance problem because of my BC and got some nasty comments so don't listen to some of this people if their comments are not very nice. They may mean well but written word doesn't always convey that. Good luck

 

[melfox26]

I had the same problem when I started diving and I add about 3 lbs for my empty tank because it is 2 lbs. postive when empty but I own my own tank. You have to be a little heavy at the beginning to be neutral at the end. I have a thread going that dealt with buoyance problem because of my BC and got some nasty comments so don't listen to some of this people if their comments are not very nice. They may mean well but written word doesn't always convey that. Good luck

Our comments were directed towards your desire to become a DM, leading other divers through their issues/problems even though you are still working out yours. We do not give nasty comments when people ask for help/advice.

Mel

 

[beachdivequeenbelam]

you only give out nasty comments then to those who are trying to better themselves faster than you because you think you are better than I am. I never asked for comments on becoming a DM or when I was going to become a DM. I asked for advice on the weighting problem and my dive education was not the issue here. I appreciate your concerns on my Divers education but I have an excellent instructor who will take care of that part. I may not seem like it but I am pretty smart and very concerned about others safety and I would never put myself or others in a position that my inexperience would endanger them. I think I can get enough experience between now and April 2007 to go on to become an instructor. I served in the Army for four years and I am used to lots of training and constructive criticism. I had water, combat lifesaver training, air assault, airborne and NBC and weapons training. I am used to some guys being jealous I was better at something than the are. I was honors in all. I did however get many nasty comments so explain those to me. I updated the other thread with weighting of my stuff without me in it and it took 24-26 lbs. Go comment there if you have some advice on that. I was told the same thing I told her about not taking some of things seriously because they are done with the best of intentions instead of malice.

 

[miketsp]

I have a thread going that dealt with buoyance problem because of my BC and got some nasty comments so don't listen to some of this people if their comments are not very nice. They may mean well but written word doesn't always convey that. Good luck

I accompanied the other thread and I really don't see why you are advising a newcomer to ignore advice given by some very experienced divers.
Although their bedside manner may have left a lot to be desired, almost without exception the comments made in answer to your post were constructive and expressed concern for the well-being of you and your future students.
In written communication it is very easy to misinterpret the writer's intention.

 

[beachdivequeenbelam]

thats exactly what I just said. I said that she should not pay attention to the nastiness of some people's comments not ignore what they were saying if it dealt with the problem. You are right "In written communication it is very easy to misinterpret the writer's intention." and thats what happened in this string as well. I mean for her feelings not to get hurt now or later on down the road if they comments don't seem very nice because of that reason. Thanks I hope that clears up this particular issue

 

[BIGSAGE136]

There isnt much info in your profile. Newbie? If so you are experiencing something we all went through. Do you have buddies to help you over the curve until you take AOW?
Your answer lies in Peak Performance Bouyancy which you encounter in AOW.

I was lucky enough to find Scuba_Jenny & Mike Jacobs. Two of the best buddies on earth! Mike took one look at my 1st dive and just said dude you are too heavy! Dive by dive I fine tuned it. It takes time. Dont give up.

 

[CBulla]

I'll venture into this subject and wager that she meant to ignore what may be read as curtly written and opt to look for the good advice in the thread. At least thats how I read it.

To steer back on topic for Happi - how much air do you have in your BC at the end of the dive? Also, what are your decent problems?

 

[Sideband]

Hello,

I've problems doing my saftey stop @ 5m. I have the tendency to 'float up' soon after our divemaster signalled us to perform the safety stop.
Anyone can advice me how to control my buoyancy?? :06:

Another Qns:
How do I shed weights slowly? I've problems descending for my recent dives & I've added more weights to help my descent.... I was hoping to shed some weights in my next dive if possible...

Make sure that your BCD is empty. While it may have seemed empty 20 or 30 feet further down, a very small amount of air at that depth will expand as you get nearer the surface.

You didn't give any real info to help us judge your weight issue. How much lead are you using? How thick of a suit? Fresh or salt water? You may be at the right amount or you may be under or over weighted. Can't tell without some numbers. We can only ballpark a figure but we can tell if there is something drastically out of wack.
Have you tried to do a buoyancy check with an empty (500psi) tank? If you do that you will be weighted to be neutral at the end of the dive, which is when you need it. If you start off neutral you will be positive at the end because you have less weight in the tank. This is really the definitive test as it uses your actual equipment.
Hope that helped

Joe