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awap:
It is a Mk5 with a good 3000 psi yoke and sufficient LP ports to be used in current dive configurations. The service kit should still be available from any SP dealer. It uses the same filter & HP seat as the more current Mk10.

The 2nd stage looks like an R109 adjustable and uses the same service kit as the G200 (unbalanced) which will include the modern poppet for that reg. The modern poppet then uses the same hocky puck styled seat as all of SP's modern unbalanced 2nds use. R109's are convertable to balanced adjustables with the change of a spring and will use the same poppet and LP seat as most modern SP balanced 2nd. If it has been converted, it will require a G250 annual parts kit. The adjuster cranked all the way in and the attractive green hue around the connections tells me it needs some work but I have seen much uglier rigs go back into service.

It is a perfectly usable reg which I would choose over many modern regulators. You might want to put your new stuff on the wall (or in your save-a-dive kit). Looks like it was a great buy.

Awap,

How does one tell the Mk5 from the Mk10? I have what I thought was a 10, but now you have put doubt in my mind. I would not be concerned, but I just ordered a few rebuild kits for it (and some other regs) and was going to go in and replace the seat and dynamic o-rings etc. My setup came with a Balanced Adjustable if that helps, but the other regs I just aquired and don't know the original configuration.

While on the subject, what is the correct I/M pressure for a Mk5 and Mk 10?

Thank you,

couv

I just went to a site that had a picture of each (I love my job)....is the difference between the 5 and 10 the placement of the ambient chamber?
 
I own a MK10 that's been around for over 20 years and still works good ...... I just hope my new Mares Abyss lasts as long and will be as dependable.
 
couv:
Awap,

How does one tell the Mk5 from the Mk10? I have what I thought was a 10, but now you have put doubt in my mind. I would not be concerned, but I just ordered a few rebuild kits for it (and some other regs) and was going to go in and replace the seat and dynamic o-rings etc. My setup came with a Balanced Adjustable if that helps, but the other regs I just aquired and don't know the original configuration.

While on the subject, what is the correct I/M pressure for a Mk5 and Mk 10?

Thank you,

couv

I just went to a site that had a picture of each (I love my job)....is the difference between the 5 and 10 the placement of the ambient chamber?

The most noticable difference is the location of the ambient chamber vent holes. They are in the body of the Mk10 but in the cap of the Mk5 (and Mk15/20/25). While the kit HP seats and piston HP o-ring are interchangable, the piston LP o-rings are different size.

IP is 125 to 145 psi for all SP 1sts.
 
scubamickey:
How long have you had yours?
Do you still dive with it?
Do you have any stories of people looking at you funny because your regulator is shiny and not made of plastic polymerwhatever (like my S600).
Have you ever been eyeballed by a barracuda with designs on your 109?

Bought mine new in 78.
Yes, it's my only reg. My wife & daughter now have newer models but I still dive the old one.
No, but I do sometimes get a compliment on my "old school" reg looking so good.
I don't thinks so, but usually when I see a barracuda I shoot it & put it on my stringer for dinner.

Here is a picture of me using mine at depth last week (I have replaced the hose with a longer one & added a swivel so I can route it under my arm):

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My early 80's MK V is my newest and main single hose reg. I will probably take it to the grave with me.
 
captain:
My early 80's MK V is my newest and main single hose reg. I will probably take it to the grave with me.

Why don't you leave it behind? Some smart young diver may enjoy it.
 
I have a Scubapro Mark V, A.I.R. I regulator combination that I bought new in 1979. That combination is probably the finest-breathing regulator ever put together (along with the Mark V/Pilot combination). I plan to dive it this weekend, and it is still working just fine, thank you.

Concerning the Mark V first stage, Scubapro was a bit put out when the U.S. Navy tested it in the late 1970 or early 1980s, and found that the Mark I first stage out-performed it. If you look at the Mark I construction, you'll see that it has only one LP port, but that it comes out on the top of the first stage cap. This is in line with the flow-through piston's air flow. The fancier Mark V, at that time, had two opposing LP ports, but they came off to the side, at a 90 degree angle to the flow-through piston's air flow. So the lower-end first stage, the Mark I, out-performed the higher-end regulator, the Mark V.

When these results were made public, Scubapro had to make a change, and what they did was to re-design the LP system for the Mark V. They put four LP ports at a 90 degree angle to the air flow through the piston, that is on the side, for convenience. But they also put one additional port right in the top of the cap. This is the main port, and all the rest should be (for best air flow results) used for auxillary equipment (safe second stage, BC inflator, dry suit inflation system, etc.).

By the way, the A.I.R. I first stage was designed to be used in extreme diving with two first stages, with two LP hoses coming to each side of the second stage. If two Mark V first stages were to be used, the flow available at the mouthpiece was tremendous. I have used it in this configuration, and in very high demand environments (swimming against high currents in a river) there is a slight difference. This difference would be more noticeable at great depth than at the river depths I typically see.

Someone asked about the interstage pressure, and I have two references in my Technical Manual for Scubapro Regulators that show this to be 140 psi. The intermediate pressure can be changed by adding stainless steel washers at 5 psi per washer additional pressure if the HP spring is not giving 140 psi.

When the Mark V (or other like-engineered piston first stages) are not being used, there is no wear on the seat, as the spring lifts the piston off the seat. Similarly, with the Pilot and A.I.R. I regulators, when the key is inserted into the slot in the diaphragm, it lifts the main valve off the aspirator seat, and again prevents permanent changes in the seat. These regulator parts last a very long time if maintained in this manner.

SeaRat

PS--I used the Scubapro Mark V/A.I.R. I combination in 1986 when I was researching a new BC design in Clear Lake, Oregon (headwaters of the McKenzie River):
ClearLakePetrifiedTree.jpg
 
John C. Ratliff:
Concerning the Mark V first stage, Scubapro was a bit put out when the U.S. Navy tested it in the late 1970 or early 1980s, and found that the Mark I first stage out-performed it. If you look at the Mark I construction, you'll see that it has only one LP port, but that it comes out on the top of the first stage cap. This is in line with the flow-through piston's air flow. The fancier Mark V, at that time, had two opposing LP ports, but they came off to the side, at a 90 degree angle to the flow-through piston's air flow. So the lower-end first stage, the Mark I, out-performed the higher-end regulator, the Mark V.

When these results were made public, Scubapro had to make a change, and what they did was to re-design the LP system for the Mark V. They put four LP ports at a 90 degree angle to the air flow through the piston, that is on the side, for convenience. But they also put one additional port right in the top of the cap. This is the main port, and all the rest should be (for best air flow results) used for auxillary equipment (safe second stage, BC inflator, dry suit inflation system, etc.).
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Interesting story. But I have a Mk5 with 4 LP ports (none on the end). Where did that version come in?
 

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