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Discussion in 'Advanced Scuba' started by Chilly_Diver, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. markmud

    markmud Self Reliant Diver--On All Dives.

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: South Lebanon, Ohio
    Hi Gcarter,

    I stand corrected as some of my assumptions were false.

    However, my gut tells me that you were not the plaintiff or defendant in the case (as you were a witness). Was your *ss on the line? Was your net worth and future earnings in jeopardy? Was your professional (not avocational) accreditation on the line?

    Did you write the checks to pay for your legal team, filing fees, and expert witnesses?

    Relying on a judge or jury to save you from financial doom is hopelessly naïve.

    The root cause of our polite disagreement maybe that we are talking about two distinctly different theories. You may be thinking of probability, and I am using the theory of possibility.

    It is highly improbable that you will get sued because you are a professional DM or expert Rescue Master Scuba Diver. I know for a fact that it is possible because in other endeavors, possibility has knocked on my door.

    A realist thinks about what is possible. An optimist places his life in the altruism of a judge and the flawed legal system (and on this subject, the judge/jury probably knows nothing of the ocean nor SCUBA diving).

    Probability v. Possibility. I think that is our problem.

    Please read: Appeal to Authority

    Your are guilty of the above.

    I am giving you my opinion based on my life's experience and training. If you don't like my opinion, fine.

    OP: I don't show pro certs because this glorified vacation diver does not want the liability. I have flat out turned down all offers to go pro.

  2. gcarter

    gcarter Contributor

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Ottawa, Canada
    A realist will recognize that what certs you have or do not have, show or do not show, is no predictor of what someone may sue you for.

    Not having a rescue or pro cert is no protection against a bad defense lawyer / jury / judge.
  3. Chilly_Diver

    Chilly_Diver Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: Dublin
    If you are getting paid to render services related to diving, wouldn’t that make you a professional by definition?
  4. TMHeimer

    TMHeimer Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Dartmouth,NS,Canada(Eastern Passage-Atlantic)
    Agree. But many divemasters basically work for free (a pet peeve of mine). And some are "inactive" like me (ie. "retired"). I figure all are considered professionals despite not making any money. My thought is it makes no difference if there is a lawsuit. I could be wrong.
  5. hroark2112

    hroark2112 Tech Instructor

    # of Dives: 0 - 24
    Location: Raleigh, NC
    This is why I prefer to dive solo and nowhere near anyone else. Everyone is so afraid of being sued that no one is going to help anyway.

    Just let me die in peace.
    markmud, northernone and rick00001967 like this.

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