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Minion_Diver

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Im sure many of new divers have questions about buying tanks online whether it is from a scuba specific website or from someone who might be happening to sell their tanks. I am making this thread and hoping that people will post what they have learned about buying tanks online and some do's and dont's.

1. What type of valve should i get with my tank?
2. Should I be worried if the poster says that the tank may not pass an inspection?
3. What is too much for a tank whether it be a steel 72, AL80, etc., and vice versus when is a deal too good to be true?

Anyone else with questions feel free to post them here in hopes of finding your answer.
 
1. If just for recreational diving, either yoke or DIN but make sure your reg is the same. If you think you may get into more "technical" diving such as deep, deco, or overhead, you may want to consider a DIN valve. If you go DIN, do not forget about a DIN to yoke adapter for your reg when DIN tanks are hard to find such as Cozumel. Some divers say a DIN to yoke adapter may result in your reg bumping the back of your hear. It is never been a problem for me. YMMV. Also, if you go DIN, you have to choose between 200 and 300 BAR valves. My preference is the 200BAR so that I can use an insert if a yoke reg is required.2. Yes, no need to waste your money on a tank that you may not be able to use. Also, watch out for pre-1988 Luxfer tanks as many dive shops will not fill them. These tanks were made from a 6351 alloy and are susceptible to stress fractures. I have seen some dive shops round the year up to 1990.3. I'd rely on someone else for price info.
 
1. Get the valve that will work with your regulator. If you haven't bought your regulator think about the type of diving you'd like to do. If you're thinking of getting into technical diving, DIN will be more prevalent; otherwise either is likely fine and there are lots of options for both.

2. Don't buy tanks that aren't current on inspection - if you do, get reasonable assurances (money back guarantees that you feel good about or have the ability to enforce) if the tank doesn't pass.

3. Depends on a lot of things, but in general I wouldn't pay more than $100 for an aluminum tank (and I wouldn't buy an aluminum tank that's more than 5 years old - AL has a limited lifespan and it's typically the tank bought by folks who take up diving and then decide not to stick with it). Steel tanks are a direction that many people go eventually - if you're diving in cold water with a drysuit you may want to start here. Steel tanks last a long time, so you want something that's current on hydro/vis and is probably more than 20% discounted from a brand new tank. A lot of the online shops will ship tanks for free with fresh inspections - so I find that ~20% (~$50-80) is often worth just buying a new tank for... if it's a better deal than that, it's probably a good deal for a used tank.

Just my $0.02. I'm sure you'll get a hundred answers to your questions depending on how people do things personally. Good luck!
 
Im sure many of new divers have questions about buying tanks online whether it is from a scuba specific website or from someone who might be happening to sell their tanks. I am making this thread and hoping that people will post what they have learned about buying tanks online and some do's and dont's.
All but 2 of our 11 tanks were purchased used, and I have purchased 18 tanks used where many were passed on to friends. Visual inspections I could careless about, but hydro is something to pay attention to. Hydro's can be done fairly cheaply from places that service fire extinguishers. Our local business charges $17 per tank. Dive shops often charge $40+. Just factor it into the cost of the tank.

For most any dive shop to fill a tank they will require a visual sticker. This is not a law, but a dive shop thing and you will conform. Their compressor, their rules. Got it? Vis stickers can be purchased from vendors, but the dive shop has to accept them. Visuals must also be performed for you to know your tank is in good condition. Most dive shops charge $10 or so. If you do vis your own tanks you will need a fill whip or some way to put pressure back into the tank before bringing it to the dive shop.

When buying a tank, don't be afraid to ask if you can drain it and take a look inside. Drain the tank slowly. We have gotten a discount due to slight rust on the inside of the tank. This is only going to apply to steel tanks. Aluminum tanks are for stage bottles, not for back gas. Aluminum tanks are cheaper to buy, but require a person to carry more weight. Knocking the valve off can usually be done with the palm of your hand once the tank is drained. Sometimes it might require a wrench, or a harder smack which is not recommended. A bright flashlight will let you see the walls and bottom of the tank. Pitting is bad, but surface rust is almost considered normal. Hydro's are done with water in the tank and therefore can leave some flash rust.

The two main brands I look for are Worthington and PST, with Worthington being my favorite. There are other brands I wouldn't rule out but be careful since some are only 300bar DIN connectors. There are 7/8" and 3/4" neck sizes with the 3/4" being the most common today. A set of doubles can easily be split up into single tanks again with just two plugs. Factor sale of the bands out of the tank cost. Personally I want hot dip galvanized tanks, not painted.

All of our regs are DIN and we swap the fittings back to yoke when traveling. No adapters required even though we own a couple.

There are many places to buy tanks. Craigslist is awesome. Ebay, and many tanks are sold on forums like this one. Shipping is a non issue if you can get the other party to agree to ship. I cut the shipping tags myself (You can do it for both UPS and USPS), then email them for the other party to print. The valve must be removed and wrapped up, with the ends of the tank also being protected. Otherwise not much damage can happen in shipping as long as the box stays together. They are steel after all.

Just what kind of deals can you expect? How about HP130's for $160 each in near perfect condition. HP100's for $150 each. Ebay landed me an HP100 for $140 brand new minus a valve, that I already had to use which was removed to make doubles. HP80's for $100 each, as new but out of hydro. The list goes on and on. Of course the local dive shop would happily sell you these same tanks new for over $300-$400 each. A 50% savings for an item that should last 50+ years, I will take it. Often you can find deals on new tanks that have sat around in a dive shop for too long and they just want to unload them and update their inventory.
 
my friends have all bought tanks online and have never had a problem...but they did see the tanks IN PERSON before purchasing and discussed money back if they didnt pass inspection...bring someone who knows what theyre doing with you for your best bet
 
I've bought new and used tanks on line. Either from an online shop or members of this board. No problems with any. If an ad says may not pass inspection do not buy them is my rule.
 

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