BULLETS OVER BAJA: Attack Yields Grave Consequences

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Crime Statistics:

Total crimes (per capita) (most recent) by country
Source NationMaster - World Statistics, Country Comparisons

#1 Dominica: 113.822 per 1,000 people
#2 New Zealand: 105.881 per 1,000 people
#8 United States: 80.0645 per 1,000 people
#9 Netherlands: 79.5779 per 1,000 people

#39 Mexico: 12.8406 per 1,000 people


SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)


Actual crimes might be higher today but I doubt the Mexican crime rate exceeds the US rate.

Comparing the country as a whole doesn't cut it. We've already established there are areas of both Mexico AND the U.S. where crime rates are quite low.

Find stats for Tijuana and Ensenada, and compare them to the neighborhoods we actually live in, and then you'll have a meaningful statistic to promote.
 
I tried for a while to get specific data for Tijuana/Ensenada vs Los Angeles/San Diego but it was taking too much time. However here is Los Angeles.

Overall Los Angeles Crime Index
135,985 - 2006 total, 3505.3 - per 100k, (4479.3 National rate)

Los Angeles Violent Crimes
30,526 total, 786.9 per 100k, (553.5 National)

Source http://losangeles.areaconnect.com/crime1.htm
 
Hello, when was your last trip down south? Did you or have you ever encountered any hostile situations while in Mexico? I only ask out of curiosity because I would like to do some diving at La Bufadora this summer. Thanks in advance.

My Last trip was a couple of years ago. I've been down there about 50 times in the last 10 years and have never had a single problem. Wait, I'm wrong. One time coming back from TJ (walking over the border to get to my car in San Diego) our US Border Patrol interrogated me for about 3 hours because they didn't believe that I was a US citizen. They asked me where I was born so I told them the truth, Burbank. They didn't believe it was a real City in LA. They told me that I fit the profile of a mexican guy they were looking for. I guess he was also a 6'2" white guy with dreadlocks where the tips were bleached white.

Billy
 
My Last trip was a couple of years ago. I've been down there about 50 times in the last 10 years and have never had a single problem. Wait, I'm wrong. One time coming back from TJ (walking over the border to get to my car in San Diego) our US Border Patrol interrogated me for about 3 hours because they didn't believe that I was a US citizen. They asked me where I was born so I told them the truth, Burbank. They didn't believe it was a real City in LA.

Billy

I did my last trip down to Mexico in November, 2005. I drove down all the way to Bahia de Los Angeles, it's about 375-400 miles south of the border on the Sea of Cortez side. We stayed at a little beach camp named " Camp Gecko". I did manage to get into a car wreck on the way down near Guerrero, other than that it was an awesome trip with no trouble.We did encounter two or three miltary stops crossing through the dessert,but the young rifle yielding soldiers only asked if we had any cerveza's!!!! Turns out they were quite thirsty! Hopefully things will work out so that myself and anyone else can go experience Mexico in a safe way.
 
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) -

A majority of Mexicans believe violent drug gangs are winning a war with President Felipe Calderon's government after one of the worst months on record for killings, Reforma newspaper reported on Sunday.

According to a poll by the newspaper, 53 percent of Mexicans think that drug traffickers hold the upper hand against government forces which are trying to clamp down on cartels that ship drugs to the United States.
Only 24 percent said they believed the government was winning the battle. The remaining 23 percent gave no opinion.
May was one of the most violent months on record for drug killings, both between gangs and targeting federal forces.

Calderon has sent thousands of troops onto the streets in a bid to stop cartels from operating.
Close to 500 people were slain in May -- including a wave against police chiefs -- the highest number of killings since Calderon took office in December 2006, according to a tally kept by Milenio newspaper.

Attorney General Eduardo Medina Mora said last month that 4,152 drug-related killings have been registered in Calderon's administration, 450 of them police, military or government officials.

Calderon, however, kept up his approval rating in the Reforma poll. Some 64 percent approved his work as president, up from 63 percent in March. A year ago his rating was 65 percent.
The poll was carried out among 1,515 people nationwide on May 23-25 and had a margin or error of plus or minus 2.5 percent, Reforma said.
 
I can always rely on Sam to look on the bright side of things.
 
Comparing the crime to other cities in the US and the world carries no significance, since this Mexican drug cartel violence is concentrated mostly in the border cities, so the occurrence is much more significant. Don't worry though, they are coming to a city near you....

YouTube - Drug Cartels Secretly Comming Into The U.S.

I fly out of Montgomery Airport and in light of the recent GA Aircraft that has been hijacked lately they issued the following statement:

"As of today June 02,
ALL PLUS ONE AIRCRAFT ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FLY TO MEXICO.

When/if the political situation improves we may re-vist the idea.
Until then Mexico is off limits.
Thanks
Dave "

The Mexican Government is seizing aircraft in an "accelerated" manner. This means the traffickers will need to replace seized aircraft quickly to continue business.
 
I can always rely on Sam to look on the bright side of things.
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Dave, Dave, Dave.... You can always rely on the facts from me rather than I was told, I think, I supose, I heard, I believe, I hope ...

This year, 2008, My wife and I have traveled to Alcalpulco (on the mainland,) Cabo San Lucas (at the very tip of Baja) and just returned less than a week ago from a two week driving trip pulling a small trailer 700 miles below the border deep into Baja to almost Mulege. It is certainly not a trip for every one, especially the casual visitor, the unseasoned traveler...

Most of Mexico is devoid of American and Canadian tourists and I can understand why; Mexico is in the mist of a war, a war against drugs. President Calderon has sent 30,000 troops into northern Baja -- Mexican military presence is every where, yet they seem to be ineffective...recall the four Americans executed at the side of the new road near Rosarito about three-four weeks ago?

But there is also a bright side for the surface traveler ~~Gas Prices...~~ Just a little over $2.00 US vs about $4.50 in US...
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Once again the facts:

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) -

A $19 billion fuel subsidy, meant to shield Mexicans from spiraling world oil prices, could swallow a chunk of Mexico's precious crude oil export windfall revenue this year, and may only delay an inflation spike.

The subsidy, which means Mexicans are paying $1.40 less for a gallon of gasoline than U.S. motorists, was trumpeted by President Felipe Calderon this week as one of a package of measures to curb surging inflation.

The Mexican government has long subsidized gasoline, along with diesel and cooking gas, but this year the program could cost four times as much as in 2007, after a leap in the cost of the gasoline Mexico imports to cover a refining shortfall.

Mexico, via state monopoly Pemex, is the world's No. 6 oil producer and a top supplier of crude oil to the United States.

But critics say the government is squandering profits from high crude prices just when it should be spending them on projects like roads, schools, refineries and oil platforms -- all things that would boost economic growth.

The money earmarked for fuel subsidies this year is more than what Mexico spends annually on education.

Wall Street analysts would also like to see Mexico reinvest more of its oil profits in exploration to reverse a decline in oil reserves and bolster sagging production. A dip in Mexico's oil exports is already putting pressure on the federal budget.

"The consumer's happiness today will come at the extraordinary price of lower proven oil reserves and lower oil production and fiscal income in the future," Goldman Sachs economist Paulo Leme wrote in a report this week.


I will eagerly await your response of I was told, I think, I supose, I heard, I believe, I hope.....
sdm
 
I will eagerly await your response of I was told, I think, I supose, I heard, I believe, I hope.
Well Sam, I would not want to disappoint you.

I was told that most people live in fear, but I think they were wrong.
I suppose the war on drugs in Mexico will continue to make headlines.
I heard from my good friend in Tijuana that tourism has slowed down and many more people are having trouble feeding their families.
I believe I’ll return to Tijuana along with 20 more people this weekend and do what we can to help.
I hope that someday you will join me to help as well.
 
I think we get the point. Travel to Mexico does has an increased risk right now.

Do we need to say more? What is the benefit in keeping this argument alive?
 
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